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Old 14th Sep 2006, 02:27
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Hi Tonka;

John Carr is the one who did the blog and he was our union President, he was voted out of office in the last election and the new President took over the 1st of Sept... So no blog... Pat communicates differently and we will have to see what comes out of the fifth floor...

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Old 14th Sep 2006, 09:59
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Scott,
Just a quick question and one I am sure has already come up. What will they do if you do not meet the clothing requirement. Without my wifes help, I would be in trouble and if she goes on holiday.......
Seriously though, the job is hard enough as it is and you must be comfortable. Perhaps blaming incidents on socks cutting off circulation might help!!! Or look at it the other way, if they want you dressed in a certain way, then get a cclothing allowance or company creditcard for Ralph Lauren.
The way contracts can be changed without an individuals signature is horrid and its all around the globe in this profession, come the revolution....................

sheep out..........camels in
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Old 15th Sep 2006, 03:58
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Dances;

The first time you are caught not complying, you get a verbal warning. The second time you get sent home to change on vacation time and get a written warning. Third time they are going to take some action against you, probably some days off...

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Old 15th Sep 2006, 08:19
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Solidarity brother, would love to see you all stick it to the man by wearing jeans to work; the whole shift getting sent home? the whole shift getting some time off... All it would take is one shift sticking together.

Imagine the press coverage, LAX was closed for 4 hours today because all the air traffic controllers were sent home to change into suits. Awsure!
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Texans in shorts?

Scott, I'm as pissed as everyone else over here at the way you are being treated. Sounds like W is doing another "Reagan" only trying to be a bit subtle about it. Who says ya can't teach an old dog new tricks?

Do what is right for you and yours. If "yours" includes the whole watch/shift, then make sure that they think the same. Don't get hung on your own for your principles. Everyone remembers the Chinese guy with the tank. Poor wee bugger is still dead though.

Anyone over here thinks we are immune, think again.
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Old 15th Sep 2006, 14:46
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Yep Pirate, just like the membership stuck together in Australia after the stop work meetings we all had 4 years ago. The conditions in Australia have continually been eroded and the membership has never held firm long enough to stop the slide. 666 greedy people voted for their own self interest and that screwed their future work mates. Anyway where I am now their is no union and you rely on the strength of supply and demand. A risky position to be in but right now is serving us well.

Good luck with the fight Scott.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 02:57
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One facility, two weeks, over 1200 greivances... They say we are happy... Oh well, this will be an intersting couple of years if I stick around... Court battles might make for interesting reading too...

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Old 16th Sep 2006, 08:51
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Originally Posted by AirNoServicesAustralia
Yep Pirate, just like the membership stuck together in Australia after the stop work meetings we all had 4 years ago. The conditions in Australia have continually been eroded and the membership has never held firm long enough to stop the slide. 666 greedy people voted for their own self interest and that screwed their future work mates.
Whilst this is an entirely accurate statement, it is not really helpful in this thread.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 11:31
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What the well-dressed? controller is wearing this fall

Just received the above, might be of interest
BTW is "birthday" an acceptable suit?

Good luck Scott - get out as soon as you can
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Nope birthday suit is definately out <G>... A couple of the photos come out of my place, just none of the really outlandish ones <G>... We do have Rodney Dangerfield day though... Just think of the movie Caddyshack <G>...

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Old 17th Sep 2006, 11:05
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I would guess the FAA higher-ups have read and taken to heart this website?

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Old 17th Sep 2006, 13:41
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From that site; the quote that encapsulates ATC management strategy (everywhere)....

"Just because you're necessary doesn't mean you're important".
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