Heathrow Tower
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Heathrow Tower
Serious question, not meant to be light hearted - with the new tower becoming operational soon, any of you guys got vertigo ?
Glad I'm not a tower man, I get dizzy standing on a stool !
Glad I'm not a tower man, I get dizzy standing on a stool !
Bet it sways about in this wind; I know Luton's tower does and it's a much more sturdy structure; fancy designing a structure for use in a flat open space and relying on guywires to keep it upright!
There's no 'plumbing' in Farnborough's tower (except ground floor) and that's half the height, so why expect it at Heathrow? It would need a heck of a pump to get water up there anyway, and as for getting 'foul water' out; the mind boggles!
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Oh dear oh dear an new tower at Heathrow.......
Well where do we start? No really where do we start?
It will not blow in the wind we are told - a mass damper (banned in Formula ! last weekend) from Japan will sort that.
Toilet in the top - unisex, some have a problem with that. But some also use the gents when the ladies is busy....??? Go figure?
A long walk from any catering? Yep you bet. Bring your own food. AHHH but will they let it through security?
And the big question.....EFPS (now stop laughing at the back) is it suitable for the LHR operation? Money has been spent they say, you must use it. It works at SS and KK, it must work at LL they say. It will not fail, but it has done in the simulator, not a problem they say.............transfer requests anyone?
Well where do we start? No really where do we start?
It will not blow in the wind we are told - a mass damper (banned in Formula ! last weekend) from Japan will sort that.
Toilet in the top - unisex, some have a problem with that. But some also use the gents when the ladies is busy....??? Go figure?
A long walk from any catering? Yep you bet. Bring your own food. AHHH but will they let it through security?
And the big question.....EFPS (now stop laughing at the back) is it suitable for the LHR operation? Money has been spent they say, you must use it. It works at SS and KK, it must work at LL they say. It will not fail, but it has done in the simulator, not a problem they say.............transfer requests anyone?
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Originally Posted by AlanM
....from the people who brought you the Millenium Bridge......
Millennium Bridge was designed by Sir Norman Foster.
NVCR at Heathrow was designed by the Richard Rogers Partnership.
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Originally Posted by HEATHROW DIRECTOR
Don't even ask about, shall we say, the plumbing arrangements?!
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Isn't in EGPH tower, where they use Rain water via special ducts to flush the Loo? The Heathrow tower doe's look a bit like a large toilet roll with an upside down clear plastic cup on top.
Sorry only jealous..... By the looks of it you could have a go at controlling Northolts traffic from that tower also!!!!!
Sorry only jealous..... By the looks of it you could have a go at controlling Northolts traffic from that tower also!!!!!
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Barnaby, not quite. 
Story is if BAA's proposed Heathrow 'East' ever gets the go-ahead, we'll need another tower to control the eastern side of the airfield. And a 3rd runway might need another new tower again!
Maybe on the third attempt they'll get it right?
Story is if BAA's proposed Heathrow 'East' ever gets the go-ahead, we'll need another tower to control the eastern side of the airfield. And a 3rd runway might need another new tower again!
Maybe on the third attempt they'll get it right?
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Nogbad, in answer to your original question there are a handful of really worried ATCOs and ATSAs. I don't do heights, but I think I'll be ok when I'm working. It's getting from the top of the lifts (bottom of the glazed cab) up the steps to the floor of the ops room (top of the glzed cab - three floors up) that's the problem. The steps actually seem to float out into mid-air before doubling back towards the podium, if that makes sense.
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When I first mentioned how dreadful I thought the new tower was someone kindly sent me a photograph of a new Stateside tower - Boston I think? Now that really looks like a control tower - substantial concrete building with no bits of string holding it up. I simply can't imagine what the person who designed Heathrow's monstrosity was thinking of? Had he never visited an airport, ever?
As for toilets - well the ones in the old tower work extremely well. The ones atop the Empire State Building aren't bad either!
As for toilets - well the ones in the old tower work extremely well. The ones atop the Empire State Building aren't bad either!
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Thanks for that Gonz 
Now that would be something I could never do !
Shades of looon, Bren, I reckon the bloke that designed it must look a bit like this.....
Now that would be something I could never do !
Shades of looon, Bren, I reckon the bloke that designed it must look a bit like this.....
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Originally Posted by GT3
Oh dear oh dear an new tower at Heathrow.......
Well where do we start? No really where do we start?
It will not blow in the wind we are told - a mass damper (banned in Formula ! last weekend) from Japan will sort that.
Toilet in the top - unisex, some have a problem with that. But some also use the gents when the ladies is busy....??? Go figure?
A long walk from any catering? Yep you bet. Bring your own food. AHHH but will they let it through security?
And the big question.....EFPS (now stop laughing at the back) is it suitable for the LHR operation? Money has been spent they say, you must use it. It works at SS and KK, it must work at LL they say. It will not fail, but it has done in the simulator, not a problem they say.............transfer requests anyone?
Well where do we start? No really where do we start?
It will not blow in the wind we are told - a mass damper (banned in Formula ! last weekend) from Japan will sort that.
Toilet in the top - unisex, some have a problem with that. But some also use the gents when the ladies is busy....??? Go figure?
A long walk from any catering? Yep you bet. Bring your own food. AHHH but will they let it through security?
And the big question.....EFPS (now stop laughing at the back) is it suitable for the LHR operation? Money has been spent they say, you must use it. It works at SS and KK, it must work at LL they say. It will not fail, but it has done in the simulator, not a problem they say.............transfer requests anyone?
A mass damper? Is that what will happen to the staff when it starts swaying?
Anyone noticed how many of the early vociferous proponents of the efps thingy have now done a complete 180?!
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Anyone noticed how many of the early vociferous proponents of the efps thingy have now done a complete 180?!
They have to be admired though, Those I know of are quite open about it.
We need to confirm whether the stories that the people who sort out our training have been told not to make the later exercises too busy so as not to scare us are true!
