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Old 6th Jul 2006, 17:56
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Question Prestwick ATCO and ATCA positions?

According to an advert I discovered recently, Glasgow Prestwick Airport (Infratil Europe) is looking for ATCOs and ATCAs. As I'm thinking of applying for the job, is anybody here that can give me more information....? Help from fellow ppruners is always welcome!
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As far as im aware Glasgow Prestwick is operated by NATS and so any ATCA positions would be advertised through the NATS careers website and there doesn't appear to be anything on there at the moment other than the general recruitment of AFCOs.
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NATS do not have the contract for ATC at Prestwick.
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In that case i think someone had better tell NATS that because according to their website they seem to think they have the contract for Prestwick and Oceanic and Glasgow Prestwick tower.
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Originally Posted by gconatyuk
In that case i think someone had better tell NATS that because according to their website they seem to think they have the contract for Prestwick and Oceanic and Glasgow Prestwick tower.
Where is that on the site, I cannot see it here? Last I knew PIK were running Prestwick Airport but a quick web search showed it was Infratil Europe, same guys who ran Kent International.

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I see what you mean now. The NATS website state that they cover 15 of the UKs major airports of which Prestwick is not listed, however, if you visit the NATS careers website and roll over the 'working environment' tab it is listed in there as:

Prestwick And Oceanic (Are Control Centre)
Glasgow (Control Tower)

http://natscareers.co.uk/indexfs.asp?id=200676

It could just be me however because i thought Glasgow only had one airport which was Glasgow Prestwick. If that is the case then i must apologise.
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Originally Posted by gconatyuk
I see what you mean now. The NATS website state that they cover 15 of the UKs major airports of which Prestwick is not listed, however, if you visit the NATS careers website and roll over the 'working environment' tab it is listed in there as:

Prestwick And Oceanic (Are Control Centre)
Glasgow (Control Tower)

http://natscareers.co.uk/indexfs.asp?id=200676
It could just be me however because i thought Glasgow only had one airport which was Glasgow Prestwick. If that is the case then i must apologise

Prestwick Area Control Centre is not Prestwick airport, its the area control centre which controls aircraft over the whole of the Scottish FIR. The Oceanic control centre is co-located within the Prestwick Control Centre.

Glasgow airport is just that, Glasgow, not Glasgow Prestwick. Usual confusion when far away airports try and pull the wool over peoples eyes by using names which make you think they're close to the city they have added the name to the airport name. Prestwick is located quite a way South of Glasgow, about an hour on the train.

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I'm indeed asking about Glasgow Prestwick Airport, owned by Infratil Airports Europe (of Kent International (nee Manston) and Hamburg-Lübeck (Blankensee) fame). I know about the airport-naming tricks, not least because I currently work for another one of these weird Ryanair-victims...
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Glasgow airport is just that, Glasgow, not Glasgow Prestwick. Usual confusion when far away airports try and pull the wool over peoples eyes by using names which make you think they're close to the city they have added the name to the airport name.
Glasgow-Prestwick is a bit like saying Gatwick, Luton, or Stansted are London airports
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How about London Manston?

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Maybe Prestwick should be named after a famous person.Liverpool (Manchester NW) has got John Lennon.
How about that famous racing driver Ayr Toon Centre. (Sorry )
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Rumour has it that, allegedly, the reason is the vacancies exist, is because so many people have left since a certain person took charge, allegedly...
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usual bollocks.
PIK aka Prestwick Airport (non NATS) are looking for one (or more) atcos to join their team due to the imminent departure of one or more of their atcos to NATS. This is a TWR/APR position reccomended to the less feint hearted of you out there - beleive me -I've done this job and they are a damn fine team doing a difficult job in less than ideal circumstances.
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PIK - 'less than ideal circumstances'

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Would you care to expand on those circumstances?
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That explains the ATCO position(s).

Any info re the ATCA and ATEs? Have they been offered better contracts by NATS too?

Interesting - as they say!
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Anyone know what the pay scales are for ATCA's??

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This damn fine team has been led by how many SATCOs since NATS left?

Are the aforementioned less than ideal circumstances a result of frequent changes of manager?

Q1 How many ATCOs have left to go to NATS and how many have just left?
Q2 How many ATCAs have left to go to NATS and how many have just left?
Q3 How many ATCAs have been sponsored by PIK to ratings?
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Q1 a few/none
Q2 not many/one or two
Q3 quite a few
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Numbers

Angus - can you give figures since Infratil took over?

How many SATCOs have held the post?

How many fully rated ATCOs have resigned in that period? Were they replaced by fully rated ATCOs?

How many ATCAs have resigned in the same period?

How many ATCAs have had company sponsored courses?
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Niknak, allegedly you may be right. But, allegedly so is pikman. They are a very fine team but, allegedly, they are being totally let down by the management team.... allegedly! As for pay Veeps, for the ACTAs it can only be described as abysmal. Nothing like the rates that NATS offer and considering the knowledge the ATCAs have and some of the tasks they have to complete, it is v.poor. PPRuDe, begs the question as to why there have been so many managers! CC
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