FISO PAY And Conditions
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FISO PAY And Conditions
Hi everybody What would you say sensible Pay/Conditions for FISOS
And Senoir FISOS should/are in this Country?,as it is becoming very
difficult to find new blood to the trade!! Traffic levels seem to be rising
again albeit not like early 90s.
CHEERS.
And Senoir FISOS should/are in this Country?,as it is becoming very
difficult to find new blood to the trade!! Traffic levels seem to be rising
again albeit not like early 90s.
CHEERS.
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Just curious - are AFISOs subject to regular assessment like ATCOs? Some AFISOs I've heard have been excellent whilst others.... well I could think of one or two who should never set foot in a tower!
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Originally Posted by HEATHROW DIRECTOR
Just curious - are AFISOs subject to regular assessment like ATCOs?
I think the big problem with attracting 'new blood' is that once you're a FISO there are limited opportunities for progression - by definition GA airfields won't have a massive career ladder to climb unlike NATS (
), so younger staff may leave to pusure other options.It is a shame that CAA do not offer any method for FISOs to progress to ATCO without having to do the full course - there are a lot of similarities to an Aerodrome Visual Rating - there's a shortage of ATCOs, so why not encourage people to become FISOs, remain validated for say two years to gain experience and then offer self study / abridged college couse for ADV
As for pay - put it this way, better than a Trainee ATCO for NATS at college!
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Originally Posted by Squadgy
Unit competency check at least once a year.
CAP427 Chapter 2 Section 8 requires a biennial competence check:
"8 Maintaining Competence
8.1 Requirements
8.1.1 For a Flight Information Service Officer’s Licence, valid at an aerodrome or ACC, to remain in force, the licence holder shall be assessed as competent.
8.1.2 The holder of a valid FISO Licence is required to have a competence check at least once every 24 months. The check shall be conducted by a local FISO Validity Examiner or an Inspector of ATS."....etc.
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Originally Posted by Talkdownman
Is this a Unit-specific requirement at Barton? If so, directed by whom?
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Got my 24 month reval in a couple of weeks - both the CAA man and our Senior FISO will be watching - the former is there to watch the latter watching me so the latter can get his local validation officer bit signed off. Should be fun!
As a part-timer, I get around £70 for a 0830-1800 LT watch. Not too bad IMO, esp considering I'm doing it mostly for fun anyway.
As a part-timer, I get around £70 for a 0830-1800 LT watch. Not too bad IMO, esp considering I'm doing it mostly for fun anyway.
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Originally Posted by Squadgy
Probably is then, thought it nay be common practice elsewhere
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Originally Posted by EGBKFLYER
As a part-timer, I get around £70 for a 0830-1800 LT watch
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Originally Posted by Talkdownman
Then it must be your local management who have decided this.
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Fiso Pay
Eglk01,
Money is a massive issue for attracting FISO's, there just isnt enough of it.
For your info, go on the amount you would get to stack shelves at tescos but for a 50-60 hour week.
There are lots of up sides to the job, getting to know pilots, seeing multitude of aircraft types, getting plenty of flying and working inside the aviation community
Its a fantastic start to an aviation career, gives you alot of basic knowledge you just cannot find out from books, but they are only needed on small airfields which have very very limited budgets hence the low pay.
I loved my 5 years and i would not have the job i have today without my experiance as a FISO.
Squadgy,
Not much more than they get at the college now mate, maybe 2 grand more!!!
And your right on the ball when it comes to going up from Senior FISO, where do you go? Airport cat?
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Money is a massive issue for attracting FISO's, there just isnt enough of it.
For your info, go on the amount you would get to stack shelves at tescos but for a 50-60 hour week.
There are lots of up sides to the job, getting to know pilots, seeing multitude of aircraft types, getting plenty of flying and working inside the aviation community
Its a fantastic start to an aviation career, gives you alot of basic knowledge you just cannot find out from books, but they are only needed on small airfields which have very very limited budgets hence the low pay.
I loved my 5 years and i would not have the job i have today without my experiance as a FISO.
Squadgy,
Not much more than they get at the college now mate, maybe 2 grand more!!!
And your right on the ball when it comes to going up from Senior FISO, where do you go? Airport cat?
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Dannyboyblue! Thanks, but I think eglk01 is ahead of you! His alias says it all! In fact.....are you sure that you are not eglk01 under another pseudonym? Funny that you should mention Tescos......and all of those other points for that matter! Except that he has done just a little longer.....and is probably about to become the Airport cat! We are looking forward to putting him out at night.......or down..........but we need FISOs........even eglk01
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I'm afraid im not the Shelf stacker but i do know who you mean!
Ok lets start the guesses then, easy clue for you, go 9-10nm due east of EGLK and the cats name is soots, that should give the game away
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Ok lets start the guesses then, easy clue for you, go 9-10nm due east of EGLK and the cats name is soots, that should give the game away
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Originally Posted by Squadgy
Yes, as I said it's a 'Unit' competence check - sorry I perhaps didn't make it clear that the 'legal' requirement is once every two years, as you said. Not sure why this has been implemented locally. I'll ask next time I'm in unless someone else provides an answer before.
It also gives the FISOs the opportunity to discuss and issues or ideas they may have.
The unit management also have FISO tickets and provide the service very regulary, so whilst there is no formal spot checks or R/T sampling we are monitored. The R/T is recorded so if there was a need or a training point to be discussed it could be played back to aid that.
I once knew a FISO who would have made an excellent ATCO, but couldn't even be an assistant in NATS 'cos he didn't have the necessary 5 'O' levels(like GCSE's but harder); he eventually got an Ops job with a charter company 'cos it was better pay (but lousier hours).