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Old 9th May 2006, 22:07
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happiest atcos??

...i have the impression that the "airways atcos" over europe enjoy their job more than the ones who work at the airports' control towers....any truth in this???

thanks!

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Could be that the Airport controllers have to work to much tighter tolerances than the en-route ones,so there's no time.
Certainly in Nats a lot of Airport guys get paid way less than en-route,but work as hard if not harder,so they could be a bit p-ssed off about that.
But then I'm not cynical.
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why would the guys on the airways get more money??
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why more money?

Because if you pay peanuts you get monkeys!! Airways work more difficult with some exceptions and those exceptions get paid more eg Heathrow and Gatwick in uk.
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That's a can of worms that I'm not going to open.
Example yesterday.En-route are trying to co-ordinated with a very busy approach about 2 a/c going to arrive at a fix within 5 mins of each other at the same level(unit instructions).These a/c are only 55 miles apart.
Approach radar vectors the same a/c 3 miles apart down final.The en-route controllers max pay is about £16K more than the approach guy.
It's something to do with Nats management,Prospect union,shafting small units with no voting power,lining own pockets,not understanding what units do,etc etc etc.
But I ain't going down that road
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Snoop good response!!

I also cannot understand the inequalities of the banding process. We all work hard (at times!) for our money and it seems unfair that some get paid so much less. Off to burn some of my excess cash now as the bank wont take any more!!
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Originally Posted by throw a dyce
.These a/c are only 55 miles apart.
Approach radar vectors the same a/c 3 miles apart down final.The en-route controllers max pay is about £16K more than the approach guy.
But the approach dude managed to loose 52 nm somewhere along the line

okey okey... I´m already out the door
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Atcos happy??

Hah never happen
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Easy, the retired ones

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Is that moustache drawn on?

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Is that moustache drawn on?

It has to be - he is only 14!
 
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From left to right: Gary Linekar, Frank Skinner, Bloke with false moustache, Adrian Chiles, someone else and some else.

sorry, this won't mean much if you're not from the UK and into soccer, but any guesses for the others?
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the guy on the right holding his head up with his hand looks like Jose Mourinho!
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The guy far right looks like Stephen Fry.
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Suited bespectacled fellow is Jarvis Cocker?
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Nice pic,proving that what was true in 1970 is true in 2006,the happiest ATCOs are the ones that have finished a shift and are in the nearest pub. One question. Why has the young lady sat to the right of Ian Hyslop got a 'tache?
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Surely, the happiest ATCOs are those who enjoy their jobs? I loved every minute and I worked just about all "skills" except Area Rad and PAR.

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Yeah.. I was spinning with Les West's watch when he retired.. They told me to come in wearing a bow-tie, etc. I'm afraid I don't take things that seriously so my wife knocked up the bow - it's in psychedelic orange and blue. Naturally, B Watch all rolled up in their 80 guinea suits and frilly shirts. Oh well... at least the Tels bloke who climbed the steps to the ASMI would remember it. He looked in the window, saw me doing 10R deps and nearly fell off!
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