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Old 24th Mar 2006, 15:06
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Thumbs down Next French Strike

The next French strike is scheduled for Tuesday 28th March. There will be a meeting later on today to discuss the possible impact, a NOTAM is expected to be issued after that meeting.
The general feeling is that this strike will be better supported than the last one. Instead of the 30% reduction in schedules requested last time (20% in the afternoon) it is thought the French authorities will be requesting a 40% reduction for this strike (30% in the afternoon). Paris is expected to be particularly badly affected.
I will post more on the subject later if I receive any further information.
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Oh crap looks like it's gonna be Tango 9 to Spain then for me on Tuesday. Or maybe 2 or 3 hours delay
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from what I hear from a buddy in Paris, its probably going to be a big one. (strike)
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Old 24th Mar 2006, 16:14
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The NOTAM number is A1128/06.
The strike is to run from 27th 1600 to 29th 0500 (UTC).

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Old 27th Mar 2006, 07:31
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Any updates on this??
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 07:54
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Just to clarify - the NOTAM is valid between the times Flowman states - the strike is 24 hours.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 08:34
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How badly affected is CDG going to be do you think? Will flights still get in and out but with long delays or will some need to be cancelled?
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 08:36
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Anyone know the start time of the strike or is it at any stage between those times running for 24h.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 08:56
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The start time for ATC purposes has already been posted in this thread ............it is supposed to start tonight, carry through the whole of tomorrow and end early Am Wednesday.

As for the effects - who knows. ATC may well be aiming to run a reduced service but bear in mind that security staff, caterers and drivers may not turn up for work - so who knows what the effect will be? What is for sure is that some non-French airlines (well one in particular I know of will make a decision in a few hours to perhaps tactically cancel flights later today, to avoid getting aircraft and crews out of position.

As for CDG - I would imagine it will be even worse than usual
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 10:10
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The first regulations and closures are being applied now.
Strike starts to take an effect from 1630.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 18:18
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looking bad - first BA flight out of CDG (7.40) - cancelled according to the BA site.... not much hope for my midday flight...
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 19:19
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Had a look at BA's website and most of the flights this afternoon haven't been hit too bad, with the exception of the LHR, its picked up delays all day.
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Old 29th Mar 2006, 19:13
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The next next French strike!

I've just turned up for a night shift to find that they seem to be making a long weekend of it!
The last strike ended at 0500 this morning. The current strike started at 1600 and is NOTAMed to run until April 1st at 0600.
It would be easier if they sent a NOTAM letting us know when they ARE working.
Delays into Orly and Marseille tomorrow are pretty horrendous.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 06:04
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I wonder how many times French ATC go on strike each year. The country seems to be in permanent turmoil and it is always the Brits that seem to suffer.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 07:23
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Sorry chaps, I'm not at work again until Monday so can't really answer your questions. Good timing or what!
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At the risk of being "off message" if we British ATCers had taken a leaf out of the French book against our privatisation, the changing of our pension scheme, and other issues perhaps we would not be in our present state where we are so demoralised and the sole topic of conversation in many cases is how soon we can get out.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 10:21
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The French colleagues I was with yesterday told me that for some complex reason, French strikes are Tuesdays and Thursdays. It looks like they'll be going on for a while - so I've changed my Thursday flight from Brest next week to Friday.
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DC10REALMAN...If it stinks that much then leave...I am sure that there will be plenty of others that would want to take on your, huge salary, pension, shares, sports facilities, social facilities, subsidised restaurant, subsidised dry cleaner, parking facilities, free internet access, air conditioned luxury, occaisional free coffee, subsidised starbucks, stripy pass holders, STRATCOH (sp) breaks, strong union and the large quantity of fit birds! Stop bl**dy moaning and try working for a living.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 10:49
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DC10REALMAN...If it stinks that much then leave...I am sure that there will be plenty of others that would want to take on your, huge salary, pension, shares, sports facilities, social facilities, subsidised restaurant, subsidised dry cleaner, parking facilities, free internet access, air conditioned luxury, occaisional free coffee, subsidised starbucks, stripy pass holders, STRATCOH (sp) breaks, strong union and the large quantity of fit birds! Stop bl**dy moaning and try working for a living.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 11:05
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Carrots,

No I don't use the services of UK ATC...I am part of UKATC!

Thank you for your comment that you find the service we provide, is of a high quality, unfortunately there are some, who are starting to believe their own press! NATS is not a bad employer.
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