Engine Out Emergency Turns
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Cats and ways to skin comes to mind here
BA 737 SOP was - with no published ET, follow the SID. Other airlines go straight ahead. My brief at STN R23 is SOP straight ahead (telling ATC) and then (asap) accept a 'directed' turn. It may be that a 15 deg banked turn onto the SID there might be a problem?
Likewise at MAN, I guess (without the charts) that 700' V2 to the left clears the terrain better than 1.2 D and 15 deg bank to the right?
These things are normally fairly carefully worked out by clever people!
BA 737 SOP was - with no published ET, follow the SID. Other airlines go straight ahead. My brief at STN R23 is SOP straight ahead (telling ATC) and then (asap) accept a 'directed' turn. It may be that a 15 deg banked turn onto the SID there might be a problem?
Likewise at MAN, I guess (without the charts) that 700' V2 to the left clears the terrain better than 1.2 D and 15 deg bank to the right?
These things are normally fairly carefully worked out by clever people!
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Couple of thoughts....
Sir Norman - there's no HON SID off 06L at MAN. Everything southbound goes LISTO (as does the odd HON dep off the other end from time to time.....)
And the ATCO emergency training that I've experienced tends to point out that, in an emergency, expect the unexpected. Crews are going to be so busy, they might not have time to follow a particular track, particularly if it's good VMC and they can see they're well clear of terrain. As long as we on the ground know there's a problem, we can always offer avoiding action to other traffic to keep it out of their way. I'd personally wait for the crew to advise what they are doing / wish to do, before assuming they're going a particular way.
Sir Norman - there's no HON SID off 06L at MAN. Everything southbound goes LISTO (as does the odd HON dep off the other end from time to time.....)
And the ATCO emergency training that I've experienced tends to point out that, in an emergency, expect the unexpected. Crews are going to be so busy, they might not have time to follow a particular track, particularly if it's good VMC and they can see they're well clear of terrain. As long as we on the ground know there's a problem, we can always offer avoiding action to other traffic to keep it out of their way. I'd personally wait for the crew to advise what they are doing / wish to do, before assuming they're going a particular way.
