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This weeks Flight - NATS looking for experienced ATCOs...that's got to be the first for a long time, anyone fancy it?
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Nope!
I saw it as well - ad says they also would like to hear from experienced ATCOs. Thing is, there is no mention of it at all on the website quoted in the ad. Who slipped up there?!
Anyone know if they're recruiting for anywhere other than the ubiquitous PD?
I saw it as well - ad says they also would like to hear from experienced ATCOs. Thing is, there is no mention of it at all on the website quoted in the ad. Who slipped up there?!
Anyone know if they're recruiting for anywhere other than the ubiquitous PD?
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Frankly, I'm rather glad to no longer be working for a company for which the recruiters can't tell the difference between a pressured environment and a "pressurised" one. Only pilots and divers work in the latter.
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Prospective air traffic controllers should have the ability to work in a pressurised environment
Priceless!
Recruitment and HR....... Where would we be without them?
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But some ops rooms aircon/ventilation systems are designed so that the ops room (ATC, medical, chemical, research) have a slightly higher than ambient pressure so that in the event of a fire outside of the ops room smoke will not enter through doors, windows, suspended floors/ceilings etc.
So some ATCOs may indeed work in a pressurised environment!
But I'm sure HR were NOT alluding to this particular fact as rightly said!
Oh dear!
But some ops rooms aircon/ventilation systems are designed so that the ops room (ATC, medical, chemical, research) have a slightly higher than ambient pressure so that in the event of a fire outside of the ops room smoke will not enter through doors, windows, suspended floors/ceilings etc.
So some ATCOs may indeed work in a pressurised environment!
But I'm sure HR were NOT alluding to this particular fact as rightly said!
Oh dear!
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actually 261A I think they mean this...
Trainee and Experienced Air Traffic Controllers
Posted10 Jan 06
Close date8 Feb 06
LocationUK
PackagePost training salary potential up to £75k
Job DescriptionLEADING THE WORLD IN AIR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT
Earn whilst you train: post training salary potential up to £75k
Dealing with traffic in the sky is a fast-paced, high-energy challenge - but one that we can teach you to do from scratch. Gaining a place at our very own College of Air Traffic Control will see you benefit from fully paid training, including access to our state-of-the-art, real-time simulation suite. And because Air Traffic Controllers operate on a shift basis, the working hours leave you plenty of room to pursue your own interests.
If you have a passion for aviation, enjoy problem solving and thrive in a high-energy environment, you could join a world leader in air traffic management. You will have to be between 18 and 29 with five GCSEs at Grade C or above (including Maths and English) and have studied to A-level or equivalent. If you are an experienced controller who has the permanent right to work in the UK we would also be interested in hearing from you.
We have courses starting soon and assessment dates are in February and March. For more details and to apply online, please visit our website.
Closing date: 27th January 2006.
NATS is committed to equal opportunities. We aim to reflect the diversity of society throughout our workforce.
Posted10 Jan 06
Close date8 Feb 06
LocationUK
PackagePost training salary potential up to £75k
Job DescriptionLEADING THE WORLD IN AIR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT
Earn whilst you train: post training salary potential up to £75k
Dealing with traffic in the sky is a fast-paced, high-energy challenge - but one that we can teach you to do from scratch. Gaining a place at our very own College of Air Traffic Control will see you benefit from fully paid training, including access to our state-of-the-art, real-time simulation suite. And because Air Traffic Controllers operate on a shift basis, the working hours leave you plenty of room to pursue your own interests.
If you have a passion for aviation, enjoy problem solving and thrive in a high-energy environment, you could join a world leader in air traffic management. You will have to be between 18 and 29 with five GCSEs at Grade C or above (including Maths and English) and have studied to A-level or equivalent. If you are an experienced controller who has the permanent right to work in the UK we would also be interested in hearing from you.
We have courses starting soon and assessment dates are in February and March. For more details and to apply online, please visit our website.
Closing date: 27th January 2006.
NATS is committed to equal opportunities. We aim to reflect the diversity of society throughout our workforce.
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I'm glad it's not just me then. I had a look on the web-site too and could see nowt about vacancies for experienced ATCOs.
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It would be interesting to see how many of the NATS Bashing brigade (ie, the ones who are always first to have a pop at NATS on here) will apply !
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I don't think it's NATS bashing but I fail to see why a qualified controller from another country would choose to subject themselves to some of the over-inflated egos of (some of) the instructors in Bournemouth. Some of them should be sent back to operational units to see if they can qualify again.
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Are we talking area or approach/aerodrome instructors?
My own personal experience at the college was a good one and i thank the instructors for passing on their knowledge and expertise. Keep up the good work, despite the new course structure making that increasingly difficult for you.
Lass
Are we talking area or approach/aerodrome instructors?
My own personal experience at the college was a good one and i thank the instructors for passing on their knowledge and expertise. Keep up the good work, despite the new course structure making that increasingly difficult for you.
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Number 2 ..... Ouch, that was a bit below the belt. Its not the first time you've been college bashing either !
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If your not aware, there are instructors who hold validations at units and its encouraged to have more of them. A bloody good idea! I had a valid Madrid Controller on my aerodrome course who thought it was ok to use "Land-Over the aircraft lined up on the threshold"! She went back to Madrid but maybe you'd prefer her at your unit?
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Finally, talking about egos? I discarded my blue shirt 10 years ago, i'm not sure you have.
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If your not aware, there are instructors who hold validations at units and its encouraged to have more of them. A bloody good idea! I had a valid Madrid Controller on my aerodrome course who thought it was ok to use "Land-Over the aircraft lined up on the threshold"! She went back to Madrid but maybe you'd prefer her at your unit?
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Finally, talking about egos? I discarded my blue shirt 10 years ago, i'm not sure you have.
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I little bit harsh. I discarded my blue shirt a long time ago but all I've seen since is a self-policing, self-obsessed group of people who are afraid of change and don't like to be questioned. Granted, there are some superb instructors at the College. I think the ROVI system is a superb idea (I believe I've said that before) but some of the dinosaurs at the College are really past their 'sell-by' date.
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EGPD is very short of staff.You won't get £75 K though,unlike our friends at the College of all Knowledge. In fact you will be the second lowest paid in Nats,and on the Airport side have to have Tower,Approach Procedural,and Approach Radar tickets.Nice part of the world if you like clean air and quality of life,but difficult to validate on the Airport side.Housing getting expensive as well.Maybe we should get more £ to attract staff,but that's a different forum
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Originally Posted by throw a dyce
EGPD is very short of staff.You won't get £75 K though,unlike our friends at the College of all Knowledge. In fact you will be the second lowest paid in Nats,and on the Airport side have to have Tower,Approach Procedural,and Approach Radar tickets.Nice part of the world if you like clean air and quality of life,but difficult to validate on the Airport side.Housing getting expensive as well.Maybe we should get more £ to attract staff,but that's a different forum
Do you really need a procedural ticket for Aberdeen. NATS no longer run a full procedural course for its employees as it is not required at any of their units. Instead they run a short radar fail element in the Approach Radar Course at the college and then ( I believe) do a small unit specific procedural course as part of the Unit training plan, to enable controllers to work without radar. I suppose they might pay one of the other colleges to put their Aberdeen ATCO's through a procedural course.
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TATC,
Nats no longer runs a Procedural course,so it's done at unit level.However it's used all the time on night shifts,as there is only one controller on duty.
As the Airport is 24 hours,and radar cover is being requested from 2007,then we need extra staff.At the moment we are going the other way,so there is a fair chance anyone from outside will get Aberdeen.
Band 2 pay isn't going to help attract,or indeed retain staff.We need the same as Scottish,Band 4,to have a chance.Leaning against an open door I feel.Watch this space.
Nats no longer runs a Procedural course,so it's done at unit level.However it's used all the time on night shifts,as there is only one controller on duty.
As the Airport is 24 hours,and radar cover is being requested from 2007,then we need extra staff.At the moment we are going the other way,so there is a fair chance anyone from outside will get Aberdeen.
Band 2 pay isn't going to help attract,or indeed retain staff.We need the same as Scottish,Band 4,to have a chance.Leaning against an open door I feel.Watch this space.
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Its going to get even harder to attract ab initio trainees with the low starting pay after the new pay deal. It wont even be anywhere the average graduate pay. I earned more in a call centre before I joined NATS - and that was along time ago before the minimum wage arrived
Let's face it Throw a Dyce, several airports were shafted by the 'banding' deal, namely those providing a large amount of ATSOCA ie you, Cardiff, Farnborough etc. We'd hoped the latest pay deal would even things out a bit, but it's just made the situation worse.
