NATS experienced controller recruitment - any applicants?
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I half thought about applying so I rang the number given and was put through to their "Experienced ATCO specialist", whatever one of those is.
I explained that I wasn't interested in area (not qualified) nor doing the centralised approach function from a centre (I'd only join to work at an airport), I asked which airports are short of experienced atco's and would I get a choice of where I could go.
She couldn't/wouldn't answer either question, so would I be better off approaching the ATC Manager at the particular airports?
I explained that I wasn't interested in area (not qualified) nor doing the centralised approach function from a centre (I'd only join to work at an airport), I asked which airports are short of experienced atco's and would I get a choice of where I could go.
She couldn't/wouldn't answer either question, so would I be better off approaching the ATC Manager at the particular airports?
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I agree with the last statement, about time they woke up and smelled the coffee. I know NATS have some of the best ATCO's but their management strategy does nothing for encouraging new people into the system.
I would like to know if they are looking for "outsiders" then what qualifications and what positions are they looking for, cos a standard add like this is asking for a shed load of applications, and also unfair for legitimate applicants.
I would like to know if they are looking for "outsiders" then what qualifications and what positions are they looking for, cos a standard add like this is asking for a shed load of applications, and also unfair for legitimate applicants.
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Originally Posted by throw a dyce
TATC,
Nats no longer runs a Procedural course,so it's done at unit level.However it's used all the time on night shifts,as there is only one controller on duty.
Nats no longer runs a Procedural course,so it's done at unit level.However it's used all the time on night shifts,as there is only one controller on duty.
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Who says the ATCO's don't have a APC rating? The point was made that NATS don't provide the course at CATC to its students. Courses run 'at unit level' are inspected by the CAA to the same standard as CATC or any other ATC college.
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Elasticbanda,
The Approach procedural is part of the APS/RAD/SRA Rating Endorsement.If you had/have an Old money procedural rating,you still have to do the course in the sim,as it has specific rules to its use.
Its the similar with Offshore.That is a UK rating endorsement,but the college don't do that one,so it has to be done a unit level.
As Gonzo says you can't sneeze without SRG approval.
Chevvron,
Yes couldn't agree more.There also seems to be no way of changing the Banding.What happened here was a classic example.Oil price up,getting busy,result Downgraded.That happened twice,in the early 90's and on the last re-shuffle.Well the chickens may well be coming home to roost sooner than expected.
The Approach procedural is part of the APS/RAD/SRA Rating Endorsement.If you had/have an Old money procedural rating,you still have to do the course in the sim,as it has specific rules to its use.
Its the similar with Offshore.That is a UK rating endorsement,but the college don't do that one,so it has to be done a unit level.
As Gonzo says you can't sneeze without SRG approval.
Chevvron,
Yes couldn't agree more.There also seems to be no way of changing the Banding.What happened here was a classic example.Oil price up,getting busy,result Downgraded.That happened twice,in the early 90's and on the last re-shuffle.Well the chickens may well be coming home to roost sooner than expected.
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Anyone here knows which twr`s are short of ATCO`s? I`,m a norwegian with 5 years experience working twr with radar.
I tried applying thru the nats web-site, but that turned out to be a dead-end... Also like to get some contact-details, as I figure it might be better to just contact the twr`s directly...
Cheers, t
I tried applying thru the nats web-site, but that turned out to be a dead-end... Also like to get some contact-details, as I figure it might be better to just contact the twr`s directly...
Cheers, t
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Has anyone who's applied for the NATS Experienced ATCO through the web-site heard back from them yet?
Just wondering what the process will be.
Aptitude tests, inteviews etc, like the people with no experience or fast tracking to units?
Just wondering what the process will be.
Aptitude tests, inteviews etc, like the people with no experience or fast tracking to units?
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Called HR yesterday and they still haven't finalised the process yet. Apparently a bigger response than expected. I also note they've updated the website to include reference to experienced controllers.
As for units, I've heard TC & Aberdeen with the odd place elsewhere.
Anybody anything else?
FT
As for units, I've heard TC & Aberdeen with the odd place elsewhere.
Anybody anything else?
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What I heard from the HR people was that there would be no aptitude tests for experienced controllers but there would be some sort of evaluation process of which they did not have the details. They said that training requirements (college or directly to a unit) would be evaluated on a case by case basis depending on what experience you have.
Normal procedure in the past was to attend Hurn for an 'assessment of prior competence' (APC) , but even this could be varied when we had a proper personnel dept. who knew what was needed. HR don't appear to have this knowledge.
Anyone wishing to apply would be better off approaching Manager ATS at a specific NATS ATSU first in my opinion.
Anyone wishing to apply would be better off approaching Manager ATS at a specific NATS ATSU first in my opinion.
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Rumour has it we'll have need of someone later this year to cover a retirement. Whether we get an experienced ATCO, however, remains to be seen.
Anybody out there with TWR/APC and a penchant for Scrumpy, walk this way......
Anybody out there with TWR/APC and a penchant for Scrumpy, walk this way......
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Standard Noise...
Standard Noise, how about a norwegian viking with TWR/ADI/RAD/OJT (and an old APP-rating) and 5 years experience? 
Any use for one of those at Bristol (assuming that`s where you work)
Best regards, t
Any use for one of those at Bristol (assuming that`s where you work) Best regards, t
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*bump*
Any news out there?
Fly Thru, have you heard anything more from HR?
Last week I mailed them all mye grades equivalent of the English GCSE and A levels exams, but I haven`t heard anything... Quite frustrating to be so keen on a job in a country but not getting any feedback..
Anyhow, if some of you have any news, would be nice to know.
Cheers, tom
Any news out there?
Fly Thru, have you heard anything more from HR?
Last week I mailed them all mye grades equivalent of the English GCSE and A levels exams, but I haven`t heard anything... Quite frustrating to be so keen on a job in a country but not getting any feedback..
Anyhow, if some of you have any news, would be nice to know.
Cheers, tom
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Nope.
Rung HR to speak to the Experiened ATCO Recruitment Expert who apparently is always in the office but away from her desk, so I could find out what the next step might be and when.
She's on holiday......
Anyone else I spoke to didn't seem to know what I was talking about.
I think the advert was a figment of my imagination.
Rung HR to speak to the Experiened ATCO Recruitment Expert who apparently is always in the office but away from her desk, so I could find out what the next step might be and when.
She's on holiday......
Anyone else I spoke to didn't seem to know what I was talking about.
I think the advert was a figment of my imagination.
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Got through to NATS recruitment to ask about what will happen next and when.
I'm told that management have meetings every now and again and at these meetings they discuss whether people like me have to come for tests or go to units.
I asked when the next meeting might be and if I will hear anything soon.
No idea, they'll send an email to someone and it's just a waiting game.
Anyone else had a better response than that?
I'm told that management have meetings every now and again and at these meetings they discuss whether people like me have to come for tests or go to units.
I asked when the next meeting might be and if I will hear anything soon.
No idea, they'll send an email to someone and it's just a waiting game.
Anyone else had a better response than that?
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I notice from the advert that:
"NATS is committed to equal opportunities. We aim to reflect the diversity of society throughout our workforce".
Does that mean they will be happy with experienced military ATCOs too? For £75k you might get killed in the stampede!
(I notice there has been a lot said about your new pay deals, but the complaining is nothing compared to the noise our inflation busting 3% annual rise (minus tax, 13.3% rise in our living quarters charges etc etc) has generated! Basra tower anyone, for 94p extra a day?)
"NATS is committed to equal opportunities. We aim to reflect the diversity of society throughout our workforce".
Does that mean they will be happy with experienced military ATCOs too? For £75k you might get killed in the stampede!
(I notice there has been a lot said about your new pay deals, but the complaining is nothing compared to the noise our inflation busting 3% annual rise (minus tax, 13.3% rise in our living quarters charges etc etc) has generated! Basra tower anyone, for 94p extra a day?)