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Then how come at our regional airport they are being posted in with just an aerodrome rating and have not been through any form of approach course ?
ed up the postings for that course and were desperate to come up with anything at short notice, (one of them had already finished and still didn't know).
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Structure, what structure !
I think the current system is a complete load B#LLOXS ! Trainees are arriving at units with too little experience. We've trimmed off so much fat that we are now trimming the meat as well.
15 years ago there was 3 years training. 10 years ago, you did 18 months including OJT, Flying etc etc. How much has the traffic rose in 10 years? and in comparison, how much have has all requirements for licenses been cut by?
Now we are going to cut the salary of trainees from 2006 intakes. That can be done for pilots but we are not the same regime. There are not hundreds of people out there willing to get into financial debt just to be an ATCO! thats because not many people out there know what the trade involves.
So when the failure rates rise and we dont get the calibre of people, who do we blame? Recruitment? the College? the union pay team? take your pick.
Left hand doesn't know who right hand is right now and needs introducing in NATS. I give the current course structure 18months max before its revamped AGAIN after pressure from the units.
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15 years ago there was 3 years training. 10 years ago, you did 18 months including OJT, Flying etc etc. How much has the traffic rose in 10 years? and in comparison, how much have has all requirements for licenses been cut by?
Now we are going to cut the salary of trainees from 2006 intakes. That can be done for pilots but we are not the same regime. There are not hundreds of people out there willing to get into financial debt just to be an ATCO! thats because not many people out there know what the trade involves.
So when the failure rates rise and we dont get the calibre of people, who do we blame? Recruitment? the College? the union pay team? take your pick.
Left hand doesn't know who right hand is right now and needs introducing in NATS. I give the current course structure 18months max before its revamped AGAIN after pressure from the units.
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Because allegedly they a ed up the postings for that course and were desperate to come up with anything at short notice, (one of them had already finished and still didn't know).
ed up the postings for that course and were desperate to come up with anything at short notice, (one of them had already finished and still didn't know).
There seems to be a big drive towards the Training 2008 initiative and hopefully that may sort things out but I think matters are a little bit more pressing and should be sorted out sonner rather than in just over two years time. I guess you can't change the whole structure overnight though.
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Im glad they will sort out training, but it wont help us who were chopped for not making the grade after not being given sufficient training.
Why dont the units think about taking the trainees straight after intro/basic course. That way training can be done on real airspace, and trainees wont have to validate on fictional airspace which they will never see again after college. Also they will stand a better chance of getting through on merit and ability rather than being chopped or chosen to suit the college course numbers, or any other political agenda.
Just a thought! im not bitter (honest).
INJS - Thought you'd be glad to be rid of the huge tart! Although she didi provide many a humourous moment for us all
Why dont the units think about taking the trainees straight after intro/basic course. That way training can be done on real airspace, and trainees wont have to validate on fictional airspace which they will never see again after college. Also they will stand a better chance of getting through on merit and ability rather than being chopped or chosen to suit the college course numbers, or any other political agenda.
Just a thought! im not bitter (honest).
INJS - Thought you'd be glad to be rid of the huge tart! Although she didi provide many a humourous moment for us all
