Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Aerodrome Jobs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 1st Dec 2005, 19:59
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Aerodrome Jobs

Hello all,
I just want to test the water a bit here and put a question out to you all...

Does anyone out there know of any UK aerodromes that are looking for tower-only rated controllers or will be in the near future? Or perhaps even ones that would be prepared to take someone on as an ATSA and train them off-duty up as an ATCO with an offer of employment as an ATCO upon succesfuly validating?

I already have my tower ticket (one of the lucky ones to go through NATS college before they changed it all) but have limited controlling experience and have not before started validation training at a unit. Units in Scotland or the North of England would be preferable but I know this may be unlikely and so would be willing to up sticks to any part of the UK so please post any info you have (even if it's only a rumour at this stage).

Thanks all and I'll keep my fingers crossed and my eyes open elsewhere.

edit : I know this has come up in the past but I couldn't see it recently hence the new post.
ATC_BADGER is offline  
Old 1st Dec 2005, 20:31
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wildest Surrey
Age: 75
Posts: 10,833
Received 100 Likes on 73 Posts
Highlands and Islands Airports in Scotland.
Redhill in the south might be interested.
chevvron is offline  
Old 1st Dec 2005, 20:38
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Richmond N Yorks
Posts: 202
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Send your CV to all the aerodromes that you would want to work at. There are a lot of jobs out there, mostly unadvertised. Goo Luck.

I meant good luck of course!!!
Get me some traffic is offline  
Old 1st Dec 2005, 21:11
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
chevvron : I know HIAL were looking for ATSAs fairly recently but I missed the boat on that one. Didn't know they may still be looking for ATCOs. I shall get in touch to see if they have anything to offer.
As for Redhill, I believe they only have around 5 ATCOs total and are a very small unit and probably don't have room for me but if I'm wrong I'll keep them in mind for the future.


Get me some traffic : I did consider this approach but have been reluctant to do so as I don't want to seem desperate. I know all the SATCOs in the local area all keep in touch so I'm not sure if its a good idea. Maybe I'm wrong though so I'll bear it in mind I think if nothing else is forthcoming.

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys.
ATC_BADGER is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2005, 06:16
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Give the SATCO/General Manager at Redhill a call and he would be happy to discuss with you.

Go to their website if you havn't already and look at their ATC section.

www.redhillaerodrome.com drop him an email if its easier.
261A is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2005, 08:38
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: UK Home Counties
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also try Wycombe Air Park/Booker.

Good luck!

CAP493 is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2005, 15:53
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: South East
Age: 56
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't worry about seeming desperate. Most SATCO's are too busy with other paperwork to worry about who has applied to who. It is unreasonable to think that every applicant to a unit has been waiting to work only at that one unit.
Send your CV out to the places you would like to work, follow it up with a phone call, and maybe ask for a visit.
The idea is get yourself known, so that when a vacancy arises the SATCO will remember you, and put you top of the pile.
Yes most units would prefer a validated ADC/APP, APR controller, but they are not falling off trees at the moment
Good luck!

You may find that if one unit doesn't have a vacancy, they may refer you to their mate down the road who has, or will have!
Barnaby the Bear is offline  
Old 2nd Dec 2005, 22:08
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks everybody.

I guess I'm going to have to be more pro-active than I have been so far. Up til now I've only written to one a/d and spoken to another but I can see I'm gonna have to get in touch with more and put myself out there a bit.

If anyone does hear of anymore rumours re vacancies please do post.
ATC_BADGER is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2005, 07:40
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ATC_badger

I'm sure you check Flight's job vacancies. But in case you missed it Biggin Hill are looking for 1 ATCO, closing date 8th Dec. Check out : http://www.flightinternational.com/J...l+Officer.html


BAW1T
Speedbird1T is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2005, 16:15
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 750
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Barton manchester were looking for sombody on there web site.

Nick.
magpienja is offline  
Old 5th Dec 2005, 18:15
  #11 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I never knew Barton were looking for FISO's. Can anyone tell me how long the training is to become a FISO or indeed how much it might cost at one of the colleges? Or because I have the ADV/ADI could I skip the FISO course? I'm guessing not...
ATC_BADGER is offline  
Old 5th Dec 2005, 18:27
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: North West UK
Posts: 390
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The job advertised at Barton is an assistant position.

IIRC ATCOs are exempt from the FISO written exams, but must still undertake the 40hrs minimum OTJT followed by the validation. I wish it was that easy vice-versa!!

Those who need to take the written exams self study at their own pace before taking the exams at CAA Gatwick
Squadgy is offline  
Old 5th Dec 2005, 18:30
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 750
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry.

Nick.
magpienja is offline  
Old 5th Dec 2005, 18:54
  #14 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks guys. I'm off now to find out the details of the few non-nats aerodromes and their SATCOs within a 50 mile radius and get in touch with them over the next week or 2 to arrange some visits.

Fingers crossed something may come of it all.
ATC_BADGER is offline  
Old 8th Dec 2005, 22:35
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From CAP 427:
4 Exempting Qualifications
4.1 The holder of an Air Traffic Controller’s licence who has, within three years
immediately preceding the date of application, held a Unit Licence Endorsement in
respect of the aerodrome control (visual) rating or of the aerodrome control
(instrument) rating is exempt from all requirements for the issue of a FISO licence.


4.2 The holder of a UK Air Traffic Controller’s Licence who has, within three years
immediately preceding the date of application, held a Unit Licence Endorsement in
respect of a rating other than aerodrome control, should contact the ATS Licensing
Section to determine what requirements need to be satisfied for the issue of a FISO
licence.


4.3 The holder of an RAF or RN ATC Certificate of competence endorsed in aerodrome
control during the three years immediately preceding the date of application is
exempt from the written examination in Navigation and Meteorology. A copy of the
relevant military certificate of competence should be submitted with the application
for the issue of a FISO licence.

4.4 The holder of a current UK Flight Crew licence is exempt from the written
examination in Navigation and Meteorology. Details of the licence should be
submitted with the application for the issue of a FISO licence.
As previously stated, the licence holder must still undertake the min 40 hours OJT and validation before "going solo".
Ops and Mops is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.