In & out of Farnborough...
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In & out of Farnborough...
What are the IFR routing in and out of Farnborough?
Does it have SIDs and STARs? How do aircraft get in & out of the airway system from EGLF?
Just interested as a local
(No hidden agenda - I'm very pro the airfield and its activities)
T'bug
Does it have SIDs and STARs? How do aircraft get in & out of the airway system from EGLF?
Just interested as a local
(No hidden agenda - I'm very pro the airfield and its activities)
T'bug
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Most dpeartes/inbounds ar eof course subject local noise abatement procedures, but as WF said, the firld is outside Controlled airspace so tactical headings and routeing will be issued to ensure two planes don't get close.
Speak to TAG Aviation if concerned about noise.
Speak to TAG Aviation if concerned about noise.
In and out of Farnborough
There ARE standard routings called Standard Departure Routes/Standard Arrival Route as well as noise abatement procedures. These are all depicted in the AIP and on Jeppesen and AERAD plates.
Radar service is provided by Farnborough ATC to all traffic in and out (in addition to LARS) to ensure the most efficient routings.
Radar service is provided by Farnborough ATC to all traffic in and out (in addition to LARS) to ensure the most efficient routings.
One of the problems is that it's perfectly legal to fly outside Farnborough's ATZ, through the IAP - marked on 1/4 mil and 1/2 mil maps - without talking to them.
On a bright, VFR Sunday it's copeable with - especially with radar - even if it is stoooopid.
On a less than brilliant day, I can see that causing some problems.
And the bright yellow Cub (or similar) which did that on a very busy Sunday in the summer showed a commensurate lack of airmanship by doing so.
On a bright, VFR Sunday it's copeable with - especially with radar - even if it is stoooopid.
On a less than brilliant day, I can see that causing some problems.
And the bright yellow Cub (or similar) which did that on a very busy Sunday in the summer showed a commensurate lack of airmanship by doing so.
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And the bright yellow Cub (or similar) which did that on a very busy Sunday in the summer showed a commensurate lack of airmanship by doing so.
Farnborough needs class E airspace. That would make public transport operations safer, the probability of a mid-air collision over the local built-up areas less and permit the provision of SIDS and STARS.
Since it was a busy Sunday in summer, it is highly likely that the farnborough LARS frequency was saturated with calls from pilots who did not have any need to call and that pilot who probably should have called could not get a call in.
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DFC
Farnborough needs class E airspace. That would make public transport operations safer, the probability of a mid-air collision over the local built-up areas less and permit the provision of SIDS and STARS.
Since it was a busy Sunday in summer, it is highly likely that the farnborough LARS frequency was saturated with calls from pilots who did not have any need to call and that pilot who probably should have called could not get a call in.
Regards,
DFC
True but why route through final close to the airfield when you could route Woking - Bagshot Mast above the danger area? Better still, if the south west bit of Heathrow Zone was de-regulated as per the thread in 'Private Flying', it would solve the problem without class E airspace.
Can one assume that DFC is in favour of more controlled airspace then?
Can one assume that DFC is in favour of more controlled airspace then?
I wouldn't say that Tweety, but if people planned their flights a bit better and called up if they wished to fly close, it would make things a lott easier for everyone
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DFC:
but that would do nothing to stop errant VFRs ploughing straight through the instrument approach, entirely legally, without speaking to anyone. It's also not exactly flavour of the month, what with much of the Scottish TMA's Class E disappearing last week as a direct consequence of the failure of this class of airspace to separate IFRs and VFRs.
NS
Farnborough needs class E airspace
NS
