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Well if that is the case then I may consider staying if I can move from my current contract!
Maybe GCAA have been reading previous threads and are listening? Can anyone confirm this?
Maybe GCAA have been reading previous threads and are listening? Can anyone confirm this?
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If it helps you to sleep thinking all the disatisfaction in AUH is just one person, then go right ahead. I am happy for the mods to confirm to you that I, at least, have just one identity.
You will generally find that the most vocal are escapees, because they have nothing to fear anymore (all part of the wonderful "culture" cultivated in AUH!!
).
I guess it's so quiet because everyone is so busy trying to get in to see the DG and go direct hire. Either that or enjoying one of their 6 or 7 DAYS OFF PER MONTH.
You reap what you sow, Serco.
You will generally find that the most vocal are escapees, because they have nothing to fear anymore (all part of the wonderful "culture" cultivated in AUH!!
). I guess it's so quiet because everyone is so busy trying to get in to see the DG and go direct hire. Either that or enjoying one of their 6 or 7 DAYS OFF PER MONTH.
You reap what you sow, Serco.
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Didn't think for a moment you had left Ferris
Shall be organise a role call?
Therat ?
Burgalrumaithy ?
ect
More seriously there a many valid points for discussion. Pity the threads were hijacked!
Shall be organise a role call?
Therat ?
Burgalrumaithy ?
ect
More seriously there a many valid points for discussion. Pity the threads were hijacked!
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Guys who have left. Maybe it is time for you all to move on, and spend your hard earned savings and in some cases your ill gotten gains, and not look back.
Speaking as someone still here, I think it isn't that the ones that have left are most vocal because they have nothing to fear anymore, but more about pissing on everyone elses parade. In many cases you guys have burnt a lot of bridges, and so the UAE and in some cases (see above) the whole GCC is off limits now, so what happens here is irrelevant to you all. Give us, who are still here, a break and sod off to count your money.
Speaking as someone still here, I think it isn't that the ones that have left are most vocal because they have nothing to fear anymore, but more about pissing on everyone elses parade. In many cases you guys have burnt a lot of bridges, and so the UAE and in some cases (see above) the whole GCC is off limits now, so what happens here is irrelevant to you all. Give us, who are still here, a break and sod off to count your money.
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Hear, hear, well said ANSA. We all make our own choices whether it is to be here or to toodle off.
Can't add more to your well versed statement
other than to say that some people are yesterdays news and who cares about that?
Cat out
Can't add more to your well versed statement
other than to say that some people are yesterdays news and who cares about that?Cat out
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Spoken like true manager, ANSA. Much better to attack the person than discuss the problems. Supervisor course must've really helped! Or is it direct hire you are after?
Your post smacks of unhappiness. "If you don't like it, leave." Didn't they teach you that one?
Or is it direct hire you are after?Your post smacks of unhappiness. "If you don't like it, leave." Didn't they teach you that one?
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I've said all along that the package here needs to improve, and I have said whether that means we all go down the direct hire road or stay with SERCO is yet to be seen, but either way things are improving.
My post wasn't about attacking the man, but telling those that have left, to stop sniping from afar. Give it a couple of weeks, and you won't know what is going on here, but if you are like the rest of those that have long gone, but are still bitter and twisted enough to give a **** (PMS, Tweety etc etc.), you will continue to heap crap on everyone still here, even though it has nothing to do with you anymore. You have made sure, along with the above mentioned names, that the Gulf is somewhere you can never work again, so again as I said why continue pissing on our parade. We may not be exactly on easy street right now, but those still here are trying to make the best of it.
My post wasn't about attacking the man, but telling those that have left, to stop sniping from afar. Give it a couple of weeks, and you won't know what is going on here, but if you are like the rest of those that have long gone, but are still bitter and twisted enough to give a **** (PMS, Tweety etc etc.), you will continue to heap crap on everyone still here, even though it has nothing to do with you anymore. You have made sure, along with the above mentioned names, that the Gulf is somewhere you can never work again, so again as I said why continue pissing on our parade. We may not be exactly on easy street right now, but those still here are trying to make the best of it.
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Dude
what makes you think anything I did changed that?
I have to take issue with this statement. Who, exactly, have I heaped any crap on? I have been at pains to target those who deserve it. Do you consider yourself management already?
I'll give you a tip; this is a forum. Opinions, rumours, info sharing etc. If you don't like a particular thread, then DON'T READ IT. If your conscience gets pricked, then maybe it's time to take off the rose-coloured glasses.
As I've said, I really, genuinely hope that it gets better for you guys. And I'll continue to share my experience. Both the good, and the bad.
that the Gulf is somewhere you can never work again
you will continue to heap crap on everyone still here, even though it has nothing to do with you anymore.
even though it has nothing to do with you anymore
As I've said, I really, genuinely hope that it gets better for you guys. And I'll continue to share my experience. Both the good, and the bad.
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"Spoken like true manager, ANSA"
Again, we're going to the same place that we were before - anyone who's positive or sees things at a different angle get the same old rhetoric.
Give it a rest, ferret, your views really don't hold much water anymore as you have lost all credibility here.
ANSA - Good on you for sticking to your guns and taking the sensible route of staying positive and enjoying your time here.
Yes, work wise, all is not as well as it should be but the worm is turning. Changes are in the wind and good ones are going to be happening. It's inevitable. Those that have stuck it out will reap the rewards.
This forum is a great place to let off a bit of steam and for chipper discussions on how we can change things for the better of all. But lets face it guys, do you really believe that manangement read this and make changes accordingly? Hardly! (Ok, we know of at least one who reads it - that was a disaster waiting to happen)
That's all I have to say on this matter for now. Let's try and keep
ol' Pinipeds thread going with the good stuff as long as possible. It should make for interesting reading with all the stuff going on with the new contract. Lets speculate and guesstimate. Any opening bets??
Perhaps our friend Foxy has a comment or two to share on recent developements??
Again, we're going to the same place that we were before - anyone who's positive or sees things at a different angle get the same old rhetoric.
Give it a rest, ferret, your views really don't hold much water anymore as you have lost all credibility here.
ANSA - Good on you for sticking to your guns and taking the sensible route of staying positive and enjoying your time here.
Yes, work wise, all is not as well as it should be but the worm is turning. Changes are in the wind and good ones are going to be happening. It's inevitable. Those that have stuck it out will reap the rewards.
This forum is a great place to let off a bit of steam and for chipper discussions on how we can change things for the better of all. But lets face it guys, do you really believe that manangement read this and make changes accordingly? Hardly! (Ok, we know of at least one who reads it - that was a disaster waiting to happen)
That's all I have to say on this matter for now. Let's try and keep
ol' Pinipeds thread going with the good stuff as long as possible. It should make for interesting reading with all the stuff going on with the new contract. Lets speculate and guesstimate. Any opening bets??
Perhaps our friend Foxy has a comment or two to share on recent developements??
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This whole "spoken like a true manager" and "do you consider yourself management already" rubbish is really old. Doing courses and trying to get somewhere career-wise last I checked wasn't a crime, and hopefully will avoid me ending up "drifting on the tides of fate", as I prefer to be in control of my own destiny.
As I have said all along, I will wait and see what is on offer, and make my choice then. I am just glad that I am still in a position to choose.
As I have said all along, I will wait and see what is on offer, and make my choice then. I am just glad that I am still in a position to choose.
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Yes ferris, it is a forum, a forum for intelligent constructive DISCUSSION. You continue to rant and rave and pointing fingers at anyone who doesn't agree with you. Grow up, opinions are exactly that and if some one does not agree with you it doesn't mean that they are managment. Your continued rantings (both here and at home) only makes many consider whether you have management envy?
Can't you move forward, get on with your life Dude?
Can't you move forward, get on with your life Dude?
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Chill out
People,
ANSA and Cheery bum......why do I detect in your mutterings a hint of jealousy or envy towards ferris and those who are leaving or left?
I work in the gulf (it would appear for worse at this time) and yes there is plenty wrong with the place and employer(s), but where we and I dare say you come from is a democracy (unlike the UAE) where freedom of speech is part of our culture (not Serco's or the Gulf's) and those that you claim are "pissing on our parade" are only exercising their god given right to express themselves, whether it be having some fun at our expense or actually attempting to add something to the discussion (which may actually benefit those of us who stay) or just sticking the knife in.
It should make no difference to you what they really have to say especially if you are happy with your lot and your decision to stay (unless you are really envious of these others and the fact they are not there or going). And it is irrelevant as to whether these bods can work back in the Gulf or elsewhere again. Don't fall into the Serco/Gulf way of thinking and try to stifle discussion/expression.
I can see why Ferris sees a management line in your tone, stifle discussion at all costs.
Be a man and take what mud others throw in the discussion and be happy in your own decision to stay, that is if you really happy with that decision----- maybe you cant really decide at all????
At least Ferris has made his and will be returning home with nothing firm and that is a harder decision than to stay for unknown prospects, and I think this is why you are pissed off with others making comment because they have been decisive.
Whatever my decision, I will be happy with it and will be decisive with it, just like a good ATC should be.
Chow
ANSA and Cheery bum......why do I detect in your mutterings a hint of jealousy or envy towards ferris and those who are leaving or left?
I work in the gulf (it would appear for worse at this time) and yes there is plenty wrong with the place and employer(s), but where we and I dare say you come from is a democracy (unlike the UAE) where freedom of speech is part of our culture (not Serco's or the Gulf's) and those that you claim are "pissing on our parade" are only exercising their god given right to express themselves, whether it be having some fun at our expense or actually attempting to add something to the discussion (which may actually benefit those of us who stay) or just sticking the knife in.
It should make no difference to you what they really have to say especially if you are happy with your lot and your decision to stay (unless you are really envious of these others and the fact they are not there or going). And it is irrelevant as to whether these bods can work back in the Gulf or elsewhere again. Don't fall into the Serco/Gulf way of thinking and try to stifle discussion/expression.
I can see why Ferris sees a management line in your tone, stifle discussion at all costs.
Be a man and take what mud others throw in the discussion and be happy in your own decision to stay, that is if you really happy with that decision----- maybe you cant really decide at all????
At least Ferris has made his and will be returning home with nothing firm and that is a harder decision than to stay for unknown prospects, and I think this is why you are pissed off with others making comment because they have been decisive.
Whatever my decision, I will be happy with it and will be decisive with it, just like a good ATC should be.
Chow
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why do I detect in your mutterings a hint of jealousy or envy towards ferris and those who are leaving or left?
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Absolutely ecstatic about being here. I see great opportunity here, and whilst I could go back tomorrow into a job (unlike some) I choose not to. Interesting choice of words YY, in saying Ferris chose to leave??????
So in short not jealous of being unemployed at all. Very happy with my lot, and just sick of all the negative rubbish from people not working here anymore. But thanks for asking.
So in short not jealous of being unemployed at all. Very happy with my lot, and just sick of all the negative rubbish from people not working here anymore. But thanks for asking.
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I've had enough! Going underground - never to be seen again
But since you have other names you post under (Seatstrap??), we will still have to put up with your rubbish.
Why I think things are improving, is because there is a shortage of controllers the world over, and so as the usual places of recruitment get short, they raise the salary, as they raise the salary, so too does the Middle East to attract recruits. Supply and Demand. You are dreaming if you think PPRUNE and the rants of a few negative extremists has anything to do with the improvement of the package about to be offered.
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