R/W 05 arrivals at EGLL
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Come on Southern Duel...who was the ATCO who had the unpleasant time? Discretion assured....yeah right!
Just checked my flying logbook (yes..I even log the pax rides); flew an approach to Rwy 05 on 31 July 1991 in G-OBAA.
The Heathrow ATC book by Messrs Piket and Bish (got your copy yet?) says that 05 was officially withdrawn 'in late 1993'. As with Rwy 23, the political aspects of withdrawing a runway in the SE of England at a time when HMG and the BAA is looking a expansion has kept these strips of concrete 'on the books' for much longer than their operational viability has truly allowed.
Cheers
RH
Just checked my flying logbook (yes..I even log the pax rides); flew an approach to Rwy 05 on 31 July 1991 in G-OBAA.
The Heathrow ATC book by Messrs Piket and Bish (got your copy yet?) says that 05 was officially withdrawn 'in late 1993'. As with Rwy 23, the political aspects of withdrawing a runway in the SE of England at a time when HMG and the BAA is looking a expansion has kept these strips of concrete 'on the books' for much longer than their operational viability has truly allowed.
Cheers
RH
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I also had a go in 'XYZ on the lighting check - I sat right down the back and came out feeling seriously unwell - great flying but not so good as a pax!
I had a go in the right seat of G-OBAA during a light check of our runways at LGW, the a/c went at the same time Peter Galyer retired and we rely on a contractor, now.
Peter's still flying - at Shoreham.
Ref the BOAC 707
Well, I'd not necessarily agree with that. My understanding is they failed to deal with the engine failure properly, causing the pylon to burn through and the engine to depart the a/c, leaving an uncontrollable fire in the wing.
'A superior pilot is one that uses his superior knowledge to avoid those situations that might require the use of his superior skill'
Ref 15R/33L, I was talking with the airfield electrical contractors around about the early 80's (who remembers Johnson & Pierce, their name lingered for years in the callsign 'JP1'?). They said they completely re-wired the side lights for this runway, finishigng just a month before the runway was permanently withdrawn for Pier 7 to be built on top of it! Typical forward thinkng!
The Odd One
I had a go in the right seat of G-OBAA during a light check of our runways at LGW, the a/c went at the same time Peter Galyer retired and we rely on a contractor, now.
Peter's still flying - at Shoreham.
Ref the BOAC 707
It was a superb bit of flying
'A superior pilot is one that uses his superior knowledge to avoid those situations that might require the use of his superior skill'
Ref 15R/33L, I was talking with the airfield electrical contractors around about the early 80's (who remembers Johnson & Pierce, their name lingered for years in the callsign 'JP1'?). They said they completely re-wired the side lights for this runway, finishigng just a month before the runway was permanently withdrawn for Pier 7 to be built on top of it! Typical forward thinkng!
The Odd One
Regarding the BOAC 707 engine fire, a relative at the time lived in the caravan park at Mixnams Lane, on the north side of Chertsey (where the M25 is now), and said the engine fell into one of the gravel pits adjacent to there.
As a child stayed there once or twice around this time, the most spectacular overflight for noise was at about 2.00 am, woke us all up. Later research makes me think it was the Air France Breguet Deux-Ponts departing on a freight schedule to Paris.
As a child stayed there once or twice around this time, the most spectacular overflight for noise was at about 2.00 am, woke us all up. Later research makes me think it was the Air France Breguet Deux-Ponts departing on a freight schedule to Paris.
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Heathrow's Lost Runways
I can't find it now but some time ago someone (HD?) posted a picture showing all the runways at Heathrow from days gone bye. More tarmac than you could shake a stick at. Does anyone have that picture or a link?
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Duncan
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Duncan
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LONDON/HEATHROW EGLL 202230Z 210624 16012KT 9999 FEW025 SCT035 TEMPO 0611 7000 RA BKN012 PROB30 TEMPO 0811 19028G38KT 4000 +RA BKN018CB BECMG 0811 21015G27KT PROB30 TEMPO 1121 22022G37KT 7000 SHRA
LONDON/HEATHROW EGLL 202230Z 210624 16012KT 9999 FEW025 SCT035 TEMPO 0611 7000 RA BKN012 PROB30 TEMPO 0811 19028G38KT 4000 +RA BKN018CB BECMG 0811 21015G27KT PROB30 TEMPO 1121 22022G37KT 7000 SHRA