IDENT without request - No Thanks !
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Impossible to go through all the NOTAM's before launch. Sounds like if you don't delay your launch to pre brief as required, you are then in violation and putting your lic. in jeapordy, not to mention your crew and passengers. We see it over here on this side of the pond too, and schedule is NOT an excuse for it. Sorry, this is a safety issue on going through the NOTAM's and KNOWINg your route of flight etc. before you launch...
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For those who couldn't find it today:
"E N - R O U T E - I N F O R M A T I O N :
EGTT (LONDON) :
COM : FROM 05/08/26 08:39 TO 05/09/30 12:00 EST B1667/05
E)AIR TRAFFIC STANDARDS DEPARTMENT HAVE BECOME AWARE THAT
SOME ACFT ARE SQUAWKING UN-REQUESTED IDENT ON DEPARTURE
FROM A NUMBER OF UK AIRPORTS IN AN ATTEMPT TO ASSIST
CONTROLLERS IN IDENTIFICATION. THIS UN-REQUESTED IDENT
DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF MATS PART 1 FOR
IDENTIFICATION. THE CONTROLLER WILL THEREFORE HAVE TO REQUEST
THE IDENT AGAIN. THIS NOTAM IS TO INFORM CREWS THAT THEY SHOULD
ONLY SQUAWK IDENT WHEN IT IS REQUESTED BY ATC."
Guys - it was the FIRST entry on the UK AIS website for the London FIR ..........
"E N - R O U T E - I N F O R M A T I O N :
EGTT (LONDON) :
COM : FROM 05/08/26 08:39 TO 05/09/30 12:00 EST B1667/05
E)AIR TRAFFIC STANDARDS DEPARTMENT HAVE BECOME AWARE THAT
SOME ACFT ARE SQUAWKING UN-REQUESTED IDENT ON DEPARTURE
FROM A NUMBER OF UK AIRPORTS IN AN ATTEMPT TO ASSIST
CONTROLLERS IN IDENTIFICATION. THIS UN-REQUESTED IDENT
DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF MATS PART 1 FOR
IDENTIFICATION. THE CONTROLLER WILL THEREFORE HAVE TO REQUEST
THE IDENT AGAIN. THIS NOTAM IS TO INFORM CREWS THAT THEY SHOULD
ONLY SQUAWK IDENT WHEN IT IS REQUESTED BY ATC."
Guys - it was the FIRST entry on the UK AIS website for the London FIR ..........
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Personally I can't see a problem with pilots squawking ident if they do it as they say it. Just means I have nothing to say apart from hello!
Don't squawk ident until asked.
There really is no debate.
As for not reading all briefing material I don't see that as an excuse.
As ATCOs we have to be briefed before we plug in everyday - that means arriving at work early to do so. I am sure all you pilots appreciate us not routeing you through the active danger areas we have briefed ourselves about!
