Swanwick Training
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From: Cranwell
Swanwick Training
Hi,
I am attending a course at Bournemouth commencing in September, and was wondering what the training process is at Swanwick post graduation. Is there a particular individual I would need to speak to gain this information to or with whom to possibly arrange a visit?
Many thanks,
Dave Hall
I am attending a course at Bournemouth commencing in September, and was wondering what the training process is at Swanwick post graduation. Is there a particular individual I would need to speak to gain this information to or with whom to possibly arrange a visit?
Many thanks,
Dave Hall
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From: Cranwell
I am looking forward to it, I must admit. Coming from a military air traffic background, this should be a fresh challenge, learning a different way of controlling. With regards to number 2's comments, what is wrong with planning for the future post graduation? If I wasn't confident, it would be a waste of time attending the course.
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I admire your confidence. You'll soon learn that the way to get through the College is to play the 'grey man'. They don't seem to appreciate confidence!
I wish you good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for. Plan for what you like - be prepared for the worst.
I wish you good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for. Plan for what you like - be prepared for the worst.
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From: Cheshire
"Plan for what you like - be prepared for the worst."
There's nothing like a bit of positive stroking to build someone's confidence....!
I really hope you make it my friend, the more who get through the better chance I have of seeing my pension!
There's nothing like a bit of positive stroking to build someone's confidence....!
I really hope you make it my friend, the more who get through the better chance I have of seeing my pension!
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Rafalbert,
I wish you the best of luck at Bournemouth and as Number 2 says, make sure you play the grey man and don't display any flair or flexibility. I hope your face fits at Swanwick because depending on which Watch and sector you get to go on could influence your chances of success. There are some very militant ATCOs at Swanwick and when they aren't busy slagging-off the management, equipment, work conditions and pay, they tend to spend a lot of time making some of the UTs lives hell. I do stress that this is only a minority of the OJTI ATCOs but good luck anyway.
I wish you the best of luck at Bournemouth and as Number 2 says, make sure you play the grey man and don't display any flair or flexibility. I hope your face fits at Swanwick because depending on which Watch and sector you get to go on could influence your chances of success. There are some very militant ATCOs at Swanwick and when they aren't busy slagging-off the management, equipment, work conditions and pay, they tend to spend a lot of time making some of the UTs lives hell. I do stress that this is only a minority of the OJTI ATCOs but good luck anyway.
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From: swanwick by sea
Arkady/Fredator,
The success rate for students on B Watch is as good, or better than on any of the other watches. Yet again another example of an unfounded urban myth that does no-one any good!! All that this misinformation succeeds in doing, is demotivating the students at a time that they need to be totally focussed on completing their training. Remember you were a student once, something many people tend to forget. The overwhelming majority of OJTIs at LACC are extremely dedicated to their students and work bl**dy hard, over and above what is required in order to get them to validity. Nearly all OJTIs feel the pain of failure every bit as much as the student, and I can assure you that there is much critical self examination by an OJTI when their student fails to make the grade!! Especially on B Watch!!!!
The success rate for students on B Watch is as good, or better than on any of the other watches. Yet again another example of an unfounded urban myth that does no-one any good!! All that this misinformation succeeds in doing, is demotivating the students at a time that they need to be totally focussed on completing their training. Remember you were a student once, something many people tend to forget. The overwhelming majority of OJTIs at LACC are extremely dedicated to their students and work bl**dy hard, over and above what is required in order to get them to validity. Nearly all OJTIs feel the pain of failure every bit as much as the student, and I can assure you that there is much critical self examination by an OJTI when their student fails to make the grade!! Especially on B Watch!!!!
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As mentioned before, concentrate on getting through Hurn first.........I know of at least one ex-mil controller in recent times who has failed and been chopped without a re-course.
I seem to remember it helps to retain a degree of modesty about one's abilities when at Hurn.....
I seem to remember it helps to retain a degree of modesty about one's abilities when at Hurn.....
