Flying In Class A Airspace
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Sky Wave,
Take a look at the UK Standard Route Document, which Jeppesen have kindly made available here, to see a likely route.
Find EGHI as your dep point and look for an aerodrome close to Stapleford to get an idea of the routeing you'd likely need to file.
Don't expect any FPL to be accepted at a level lower than FL90 either.
Enjoy
WF.
Take a look at the UK Standard Route Document, which Jeppesen have kindly made available here, to see a likely route.
Find EGHI as your dep point and look for an aerodrome close to Stapleford to get an idea of the routeing you'd likely need to file.
Don't expect any FPL to be accepted at a level lower than FL90 either.
Enjoy
WF.
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No Spitoon old friend - the details are correct.
Yes - you're right, aircraft over 5700kg have to file a plan (nominally for charging purposes). Aircraft over 1999kg, even if no plan is filed, are subject to IFR charges. However - Send Clowns raises the valid point about A/G / FISO airfields. If they don't submit their movement logs to the authority then the chances are a charge will not be raised. Bear in mind though that technically speaking A/G / FISO airfields aren't actually available for IFR flights (UK AIP GEN section gives a table of aerodromes v types of flight allowed to use them). If you arrive at a unit which does though, as an IFR arrival, then expect a bill. Charge will be based on distance between separture and destination airfields.
It pays to keep a note of which flights were IFR and which were VFR, as it's not been unheard of for a bill to be issued for a VFR flight if you're above the 1999kg limit.
Yes - you're right, aircraft over 5700kg have to file a plan (nominally for charging purposes). Aircraft over 1999kg, even if no plan is filed, are subject to IFR charges. However - Send Clowns raises the valid point about A/G / FISO airfields. If they don't submit their movement logs to the authority then the chances are a charge will not be raised. Bear in mind though that technically speaking A/G / FISO airfields aren't actually available for IFR flights (UK AIP GEN section gives a table of aerodromes v types of flight allowed to use them). If you arrive at a unit which does though, as an IFR arrival, then expect a bill. Charge will be based on distance between separture and destination airfields.
It pays to keep a note of which flights were IFR and which were VFR, as it's not been unheard of for a bill to be issued for a VFR flight if you're above the 1999kg limit.
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Originally Posted by Chilli Monster
It pays to keep a note of which flights were IFR and which were VFR, as it's not been unheard of for a bill to be issued for a VFR flight if you're above the 1999kg limit.
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Spittoon - but the Navajo is less than 5,700 kg, yet above 2,000 kg so still subject to charges. I occasionally fly the PA-34 on positioning legs without a flight plan under IFR, although good airmanship means I always flight plan public-transport flights. I assume I will do the same with the PA-31.
I agree that (in the UK) A/G and FISO airfields are not available to IFR traffic, although they are in France, but there is nothing preventing a pilot from changing to IFR as soon as he hits MSA, and flying as such until he is below MSA at the other end. Certainly shall remember now to keep track of any VFR flights in a larger aircraft.
I agree that (in the UK) A/G and FISO airfields are not available to IFR traffic, although they are in France, but there is nothing preventing a pilot from changing to IFR as soon as he hits MSA, and flying as such until he is below MSA at the other end. Certainly shall remember now to keep track of any VFR flights in a larger aircraft.
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To go back to the Channel Islands question again - the Arrival Charts for the 3 Airports have clear instructions as to routing to be expected when joining at 50N.
Regards,
DFC
Regards,
DFC
