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atcomarkingtime,
If you believe that the grass is greener elsewhere, let me give you some advice:
Inform yourself as best as you can about the conditions (pay, working environment, way of working, management and especially how they treat their employees, tax, cost of living). Have a look around at the premises of your potential employer, talk to staff.
After you've done that be aware that you'll only know half. The other half you'll get to know once you're actually living and working there. Believe me it is so (I'm speaking from experience...).
Expect things at work not only to be different from what you're used to, but very different (GOPs, SOPs, phraseo). Not a problem as such and to a certain extent logic, but only to a certain extent (and there you can believe me as well...).
Most importantly though:
Don't burn the bridge down behind you!
Because you might wanna have a (work)place to go back to...
If you believe that the grass is greener elsewhere, let me give you some advice:
Inform yourself as best as you can about the conditions (pay, working environment, way of working, management and especially how they treat their employees, tax, cost of living). Have a look around at the premises of your potential employer, talk to staff.
After you've done that be aware that you'll only know half. The other half you'll get to know once you're actually living and working there. Believe me it is so (I'm speaking from experience...).
Expect things at work not only to be different from what you're used to, but very different (GOPs, SOPs, phraseo). Not a problem as such and to a certain extent logic, but only to a certain extent (and there you can believe me as well...).
Most importantly though:
Don't burn the bridge down behind you!
Because you might wanna have a (work)place to go back to...
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But seroiusly, what IS going on down there?
Any jobs for "Area Radar Controllers" from overseas with prior experience who DO have the right to work and live in Oz?
Any controller from within Airservices care to comment?
Any jobs for "Area Radar Controllers" from overseas with prior experience who DO have the right to work and live in Oz?
Any controller from within Airservices care to comment?
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Any jobs for "Area Radar Controllers" from overseas with prior experience who DO have the right to work and live in Oz?
As for vacancies, well yes there are plenty. In fact, 2 Kiwis just finished their initial rating training.
If you want a job in our sunburnt country, log on to the AirservicesAustralia website, or contact AsA Human Resources. They'll be able to give you details of how to apply. I think the best person would be Brad Wise, or Carol Cheffins.
Any way send them an e-mail and good luck.
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Air Traffic Controlers aren't on the general skills list, they are on the Employer Nomination Scheme which is a bit different. Spend some time on www.immi.gov.au and you'll find some answers.
Good Luck
Good Luck
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I thought though that airservices wouldn't sponsor people - isn't this the same? I'm interested in the move for en-route and need more info for applying - the link seems to go to the oz gov web page, but still unsure if airservices will help.
Love to get more info about applying
Love to get more info about applying
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With reference to your last post, atcomarkingtime, it would be a great folly to think that ASA will help with anything, unless they have undergone a collective metamorphosis recently. On the contrary they are more likely to frustrate you at every turn. I suggest that Spuds gives some wise advice, particularly the bit about bridges!
Admittedly it seems to be pretty common in the world of ATC, but I don't think ASA could ever be described as a fair and caring employer.
Admittedly it seems to be pretty common in the world of ATC, but I don't think ASA could ever be described as a fair and caring employer.
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Things aren't looking peachy on the industrial front downunder.
Shafted Oz ATC
Also a fair bit of comment on recruitment at their forums
Civil Air
Shafted Oz ATC
Also a fair bit of comment on recruitment at their forums
Civil Air
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It's pretty straight forward:
You don't stand a chance unless you are a permanent resident.
Should you opt for applying for permanent residency and eventually be granted one (good luck with that...), you would fall under the so called RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning) scheme, which is tailored for licenced ATCOs (including RAAFies).
Problem is though: You'll start at the bottom of the pay scale.
Conclusion: Not good enough.
Besides, ASA doesn't carry the best of reputations as an employer...
P.S. Kiwis have a special status since they have a right to live and work in Oz as such.
You don't stand a chance unless you are a permanent resident.
Should you opt for applying for permanent residency and eventually be granted one (good luck with that...), you would fall under the so called RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning) scheme, which is tailored for licenced ATCOs (including RAAFies).
Problem is though: You'll start at the bottom of the pay scale.
Conclusion: Not good enough.
Besides, ASA doesn't carry the best of reputations as an employer...
P.S. Kiwis have a special status since they have a right to live and work in Oz as such.
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Dirty Pierre
Any jobs for "Area Radar Controllers" from overseas with prior experience who DO have the right to work and live in Oz?
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I have been trying unsuccessfully for over 18 months to get an enroute position with ASA.
I have gone through all the official channels to no avail but
have been told that there are currently no vacancies.
However my oz colleagues here and frequent posts on this forum seem to indicate otherwise.
Why are they so reluctant to recruit from overseas if we have permanent residence status and have the qualifications?
I have not contacted Brad Wise yet , what is his position/title and do you have a contact no or email?
Thanx
Any jobs for "Area Radar Controllers" from overseas with prior experience who DO have the right to work and live in Oz?
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I have been trying unsuccessfully for over 18 months to get an enroute position with ASA.
I have gone through all the official channels to no avail but
have been told that there are currently no vacancies.
However my oz colleagues here and frequent posts on this forum seem to indicate otherwise.
Why are they so reluctant to recruit from overseas if we have permanent residence status and have the qualifications?
I have not contacted Brad Wise yet , what is his position/title and do you have a contact no or email?
Thanx
Last edited by Zerc; 27th Apr 2005 at 06:56.