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at a recent meeting about saving money at EGCC.it was suggested that the general manager and his minions, at least 7 other managers of different sorts give up their multi-storey car park passes and catch the bus like the rest of us. Of course fell on deaf ears and the person who suggested it was requested to pay the boss!! a visit. stuff the troops i am alright jack. For the moment
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ahhhhhh j17 I suspect you were at the very same meeting as me and it was enough to make you ill wasn't it? 
I actually like our GM it has to be said - at least he is honest and upfront in what he does and doesn't know.
I do find it rather ironic though that we have to battle over paper, pens, fam flights and the like and yet certain managers are flapping cause they may have to get the bus with the great unwashed every morning.
Saying that, I bet a few of our managers are a tad bit worried as to their job prospects at the moment eh?
I actually like our GM it has to be said - at least he is honest and upfront in what he does and doesn't know.
I do find it rather ironic though that we have to battle over paper, pens, fam flights and the like and yet certain managers are flapping cause they may have to get the bus with the great unwashed every morning.
Saying that, I bet a few of our managers are a tad bit worried as to their job prospects at the moment eh?
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You folks up North might be interested to know that LATCC managers are about to give up their allocated car parking spaces at the front of the grid near the building. Out with the can of Black paint and they can all play the LATCC "find a space" game like the rest of us workers.
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Don`t be fooled. Its obviously a plot by the hierarchy to avoid detection when the TAG axe starts to fall. Next thing you know they`ll be mingling with us in the coffee lounge and wearing more typical Latcc attire, and slagging off the ORO and generally behaving like the rest of us.
Do you think the car parking thing will spread to NERC?
Don`t be fooled. Its obviously a plot by the hierarchy to avoid detection when the TAG axe starts to fall. Next thing you know they`ll be mingling with us in the coffee lounge and wearing more typical Latcc attire, and slagging off the ORO and generally behaving like the rest of us.
Do you think the car parking thing will spread to NERC?
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Good to see the BIG ISSUES being discussed here on PPRUNE.
Car Parking at LATCC....you guys kill me.
Personal Note; Organise Red Cross Food Parcels For LATCC staff
Car Parking at LATCC....you guys kill me.
Personal Note; Organise Red Cross Food Parcels For LATCC staff
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Sorry Chiglet,
I stand corrected. I apologise for the Rash Generalisation.
Hey BL, how are you? I have been here but just, well lurking in the shadows, if you know what I mean......! I am not allowed to upset people on PPRUNE anymore, my therapist said I should find a different avenue to vent my frustrations....
But you know what its like, once your addicted....and they dont make PPRUNE patches to put on your arms yet to help you stop slowly.
And well never being one to pass up a good opportunity for a little baiting I thought this was a great thread, I mean 10s of thousands of people lose their jobs throughout the aviation industry and all your colleagues in Wales (Manchester is in Wales isnt it???
) can find to whinge about are the managers car parking spots.
I ask you....
Anyway Bex it was good to hear from you ....albeit as brief as it was.
Till next time
(Im sure it will be soon)
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I stand corrected. I apologise for the Rash Generalisation.
Hey BL, how are you? I have been here but just, well lurking in the shadows, if you know what I mean......! I am not allowed to upset people on PPRUNE anymore, my therapist said I should find a different avenue to vent my frustrations....
But you know what its like, once your addicted....and they dont make PPRUNE patches to put on your arms yet to help you stop slowly.
And well never being one to pass up a good opportunity for a little baiting I thought this was a great thread, I mean 10s of thousands of people lose their jobs throughout the aviation industry and all your colleagues in Wales (Manchester is in Wales isnt it???
) can find to whinge about are the managers car parking spots.I ask you....
Anyway Bex it was good to hear from you ....albeit as brief as it was.
Till next time
(Im sure it will be soon)
Be verwy verwy qwuiet I can hear somewun
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Right, stuff the car park pass issue!
Who gets a COMPANY CAR, let alone a parking space?
Who gets part paid in BONUSES for their year's "work"?
Who gave tacit approval to the concept of PPP and the subsequent mess we all find ourselves in? (not blaming said people for the catalyst for the mess, much as I'd love to contrive to!) The 80% who survive will think they've won the bloody lottery!
Do said people deserve what they receive for their work?
Now, who is still finding that traffic levels are at least what they were on September 10 and that their job is just as difficult now?
Which grade is being messed around over their rosters and, allegedly, intimidated over refusal to work their days off- and, apparently, for the temerity to ask a question at an open meeting?
Which grades are being lined up for a pay freeze because our new lords & masters are in more pooh than you could shake several sticks at!
Not knowing too much about anything I'll leave and hope that I've said enough to inspire a more knowledgeable, potent writer than myself to continue............
Who gets a COMPANY CAR, let alone a parking space?
Who gets part paid in BONUSES for their year's "work"?
Who gave tacit approval to the concept of PPP and the subsequent mess we all find ourselves in? (not blaming said people for the catalyst for the mess, much as I'd love to contrive to!) The 80% who survive will think they've won the bloody lottery!
Do said people deserve what they receive for their work?
Now, who is still finding that traffic levels are at least what they were on September 10 and that their job is just as difficult now?
Which grade is being messed around over their rosters and, allegedly, intimidated over refusal to work their days off- and, apparently, for the temerity to ask a question at an open meeting?
Which grades are being lined up for a pay freeze because our new lords & masters are in more pooh than you could shake several sticks at!
Not knowing too much about anything I'll leave and hope that I've said enough to inspire a more knowledgeable, potent writer than myself to continue............
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Ahh TrafficTraffic wondered where you were
Naah, I'm not rising to any baiting anymore, as you'll have seen from another thread. Personalattacks are easy, solutions to problems often less palatable.
You used to have a thing about traffic presentation, and admittedly it isn't always brilliant but in my own opinion this has a lot to do with not appreciating what the recieving guy is trying to achieve as well as the recieving guy not understanding the problems of the sender. It works both ways. That why the END of liason visits on cost grounds is such a tragedy. These were opportunities to explain, and IMPROVE understanding both ways, which would benefit everyone, including the airlines.
Sigh....
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Sorry folks, a bit off topic..
Naah, I'm not rising to any baiting anymore, as you'll have seen from another thread. Personalattacks are easy, solutions to problems often less palatable.
You used to have a thing about traffic presentation, and admittedly it isn't always brilliant but in my own opinion this has a lot to do with not appreciating what the recieving guy is trying to achieve as well as the recieving guy not understanding the problems of the sender. It works both ways. That why the END of liason visits on cost grounds is such a tragedy. These were opportunities to explain, and IMPROVE understanding both ways, which would benefit everyone, including the airlines.
Sigh....
rgds BEX
Sorry folks, a bit off topic..
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Back to the important issues of parking 
- I understand that the managers at Manchester who park in the multi-storey do so at a cost to NATS of around £2000 each/annum-a disgrace if this is true.
There is a certain WM at LATCC who refuses to use their allocated space and allows a first come first served to the members of the watch, as she believes the reserved system to be archaic.
- I understand that the managers at Manchester who park in the multi-storey do so at a cost to NATS of around £2000 each/annum-a disgrace if this is true. There is a certain WM at LATCC who refuses to use their allocated space and allows a first come first served to the members of the watch, as she believes the reserved system to be archaic.
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Aw come on Bex......Now you have made me really really angry. I have to agree with everything you said! I think you are right, a lot of ATC problems come down to not knowing the other persons job, whether that be driving the big jets the guys (or Gals) sitting in the centre across the ways... now how does 1 get into LATCC for a visit? (Obviuosly there would be no car parking on site!).
Thats right...back to the important issue...what HAVE the managers ever done for us? Apart from kept us in work....yes well apart from that....
Thats right...back to the important issue...what HAVE the managers ever done for us? Apart from kept us in work....yes well apart from that....
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The reserved parking spaces at LATCC are going to show that there is a new, more open management style on the way. Also, it could be that if there are no managers to fill them then the spaces will not be required anyway!
The £2000 a year spaces at CC will be gone before you know it. So will the number of managers with offices.
It frightens me to think that an ATCO (TT??) can be such a a complete idiot.
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Lights off, PC's off, cat out, don't flush the loo, B747's take off using three engines unless stading room on a/c is full, ATCO's on a break double as security guards (team up with former LATCC management), canteen closes but three kebab stalls set up in former reserved car park area. TC project started to move TC to MT hangar.
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It was like that when I found it.
The £2000 a year spaces at CC will be gone before you know it. So will the number of managers with offices.
It frightens me to think that an ATCO (TT??) can be such a a complete idiot.
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Lights off, PC's off, cat out, don't flush the loo, B747's take off using three engines unless stading room on a/c is full, ATCO's on a break double as security guards (team up with former LATCC management), canteen closes but three kebab stalls set up in former reserved car park area. TC project started to move TC to MT hangar.
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It was like that when I found it.
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Great Unmangaed,
Hello to you too.
I'm not sure what has elevated me in status from IDIOT to COMPLETE IDIOT but I assume you will let me know when you come off your medication.
I just thought that maybe, perhaps, if it isnt too much trouble you guys could concentrate on ATC, and discussing the allocation of car park spaces for your managers appears to be quite trivial (at least to those of us with at least as much common sense as a Cocker Spaniel).
Of course you and your colleagues should pursue this endeavour to your hearts content. Because you are doing a really good job of giving us ATC's a great public image.
I suppose as an ATC (if in fact you are one) you never ever ever receive in bonuses, perks, discounts, penalty payments, extra leave or allowances of any sort.
Do You??
Sorry Brightling and Bex.....I couldnt resist.....
Hello to you too.
I'm not sure what has elevated me in status from IDIOT to COMPLETE IDIOT but I assume you will let me know when you come off your medication.
I just thought that maybe, perhaps, if it isnt too much trouble you guys could concentrate on ATC, and discussing the allocation of car park spaces for your managers appears to be quite trivial (at least to those of us with at least as much common sense as a Cocker Spaniel).
Of course you and your colleagues should pursue this endeavour to your hearts content. Because you are doing a really good job of giving us ATC's a great public image.
I suppose as an ATC (if in fact you are one) you never ever ever receive in bonuses, perks, discounts, penalty payments, extra leave or allowances of any sort.
Do You??
Sorry Brightling and Bex.....I couldnt resist.....
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Tragic Tragic.
The complete idiot handle comes from youself. My medication is just fine. Thanks for asking.
I am starting to think that you may be a manager......... With your own car space there in never never land.
The complete idiot handle comes from youself. My medication is just fine. Thanks for asking.
I am starting to think that you may be a manager......... With your own car space there in never never land.