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"the biggest tool that the union has been presented with for many years"
No I think he's one of our reps that's just been voted in actually, although I suspect the competition for that title may be quite stiff (no pun intended)
No I think he's one of our reps that's just been voted in actually, although I suspect the competition for that title may be quite stiff (no pun intended)
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You, as a unit, voted for him/her. If this person is so unsuitable to represent your views what does that say about you? Or was he/she voted in unopposed? What does THAT say about you?
You, as a unit, voted for him/her. If this person is so unsuitable to represent your views what does that say about you? Or was he/she voted in unopposed? What does THAT say about you?
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Slagging off your Union Rep is not humorous. These people are volunteers doing a thankless task. They get plenty of undeserved stick simply because they are reps. They don't need cheap shots like that just so you can look like a funny man on Pprune.
Its not called humour its called sarcasm, wits lowest form.
Its not called humour its called sarcasm, wits lowest form.
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Get down off your high horse. You really are a sad and bitter old man.
Guess what? There is no Union rep been voted in - again its a joke - a play on words! Yes! sarcasm to lighten an otherwise dull subject.
Good to see you churn the old ones out "sarcasm, wits lowest form". It probably is to a dullard like you. God I bet the hours fly by in your company......
Then again I bet they don't !!
Get down off your high horse. You really are a sad and bitter old man.
Guess what? There is no Union rep been voted in - again its a joke - a play on words! Yes! sarcasm to lighten an otherwise dull subject.
Good to see you churn the old ones out "sarcasm, wits lowest form". It probably is to a dullard like you. God I bet the hours fly by in your company......
Then again I bet they don't !!
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So you weren't having a pop at an individual but at all union reps?
I don't find it funny, I really don't.
Why does standing up for the butt of your joke make me sad and bitter? (and old, where did that come from?)
I don't find it funny, I really don't.
Why does standing up for the butt of your joke make me sad and bitter? (and old, where did that come from?)
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Not sure about settled, but there was something on the intranet regarding negotiations having finished and the union would be balloting members on the offer.
I would doubt that there will be anything too exciting on offer since NATS has been pleading poverty, my guess is they're looking to get AAVA's back through as soon as possible and want something put to the staff.
Unless it's anything decent then I'm sure that a NO vote will follow.
I've no doubt that someone out there in Pprune land will know details of the offer and enlighten us, perhaps on the NATS forum so that discussions on the offer can be kept private.
I would doubt that there will be anything too exciting on offer since NATS has been pleading poverty, my guess is they're looking to get AAVA's back through as soon as possible and want something put to the staff.
Unless it's anything decent then I'm sure that a NO vote will follow.
I've no doubt that someone out there in Pprune land will know details of the offer and enlighten us, perhaps on the NATS forum so that discussions on the offer can be kept private.
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The negotiations have finished and the final offer will be taken back to all the Trade Union Branch Executive Committees. They will then decide if they will recommended acceptance
/ be neutral
/ recommend rejection
of the various offers. The offer will go out to ballt with that BEC recommendation attached (and hopefully unit meetings to explain the details)
At that point it will be clear exactly what the basic pay offer is to all staff and what is being offered to settle the other issues under negotiation - Working Practices changes and ATCO structure.
All you have to do then is cast your vote if you are a Union member.
/ be neutral / recommend rejection of the various offers. The offer will go out to ballt with that BEC recommendation attached (and hopefully unit meetings to explain the details)At that point it will be clear exactly what the basic pay offer is to all staff and what is being offered to settle the other issues under negotiation - Working Practices changes and ATCO structure.
All you have to do then is cast your vote if you are a Union member.
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Been away for a while.
Looking forward to finding out what the offer is and what is tied in with it.
Going back a couple of pages now...
Traffic - thanks for your advice. I looked in the mirror - really liked what I saw. If you were referring to me when you were talking about whingeing about pay, please point out the post to me.
I don't ever remember complaining about how much I get paid for the little I do.
FlowMan - you really should extract youreself from traffics @rse - or do you find that statistics like traffic1 vectorline0 turns you on? do you keep copies of flight plans too? - muppet.
Oh that feels better - now, back to the topic.............
Looking forward to finding out what the offer is and what is tied in with it.
Going back a couple of pages now...
Traffic - thanks for your advice. I looked in the mirror - really liked what I saw. If you were referring to me when you were talking about whingeing about pay, please point out the post to me.
I don't ever remember complaining about how much I get paid for the little I do.
FlowMan - you really should extract youreself from traffics @rse - or do you find that statistics like traffic1 vectorline0 turns you on? do you keep copies of flight plans too? - muppet.
Oh that feels better - now, back to the topic.............
More than just an ATCO
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Nogbad & Vectorline
If you don't like non NATS controllers, specifically TT and Flowman, airing their views on a thread whch is of very little relevance to most then I repeat the earlier suggestions that you take all the whinging about how poorly done by, in both financial and professional senses, you (non specifically) are, to the NATS Forum.
Lon
If you don't like non NATS controllers, specifically TT and Flowman, airing their views on a thread whch is of very little relevance to most then I repeat the earlier suggestions that you take all the whinging about how poorly done by, in both financial and professional senses, you (non specifically) are, to the NATS Forum.
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Well if the Union are coming back with an offer then I guess we will be recommended to accept it as usual...best we can do blah blah...financial constraints blah blah...
Then off course this thread will urge everyone not to accept and everyone will say they are voting "No" and the deal will be accepted with a huge majority...
Cynical? ME?
Plus ca change mais le maime chose....or something
Then off course this thread will urge everyone not to accept and everyone will say they are voting "No" and the deal will be accepted with a huge majority...
Cynical? ME?
Plus ca change mais le maime chose....or something