MEA..MOCA????..lets just go down

[YFlex]

Question....

1) ABC123 turn right heading 230 "radar vectors" descend to 3000ft

2) ABC123 "route direct" to AB VOR descend to 3000ft

Does ATC provide terrain clearance in one/ both/ or none of the above scenerios????

Thanks for the insight from any region of the world.

[Chilli Monster]

In both scenarios, for the UK anyway, ATC will provide terrain separation unless you elect to continue VMC and are visual with the surface.

[Iron City]

In U.S. if you are getting ATC services like both of these you will be clear of terrain/towers/cranes/etc (that's what the MOCA is)

It's when the controller says "...radar service terminated have a good day." that you are on your own.

[mancman]

As far as i'm aware under Eurocontrol "laws" in the first case the controller is responsible for ground clearance as the aircraft is on a radar heading. When ever the pilot is given "own navigation to a point" he is now responsible. Hope this helps.

[YFlex]

Yeah, I thought myself that when you are radar identified....whether a direct route or radar vectors, ATC provides terrrain clearance altitudes.