CX Cadet Selection details.

[JetDriverWannabe]

This Section is written to help people who want to get into the Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme.

As of 2005, here is a list of the "Hurdles" the a candidate must go through.

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Cover Letter
Resume
Certificates
Answer the 2 questions on the Application form.
English Listening Test
7 min English Test listening test.
English Grammer Test
IQ Test
60min IQ/Logic Test(Choose the correct box to complete the pattern)
Computer Test
45 min Computer Test consiting of the following.
....Quick subtraction (Equation shown, is is correct or not)
....Hand/eye co-ordination(done with joystick)
....Feet/eye co-ordindation (done with rudder pedals)
....Landing Approach (depth preception)
....Nail the Bandit (shoot / don't shoot)

Presentation
Topic = "Training Aspects of the Cadet Pilot Programme"
1st HR Interview I
Interview with 2 HR people or 1 HR + 1 Pilot.
Numeracy Test
33 questions in 30 minutes. Select the best answer out of 16 on the computer screen.
Personality Quiz
Answer 167 Personality Quiz questions in 45 mins.
Job Knowledge Quiz
Answer 45 Questions on information from a book they send to you.
Group Exercise
You and 3 other candidates are give a problem to solve. You are each given set of data and a set of possible solutions. Work together as a group the solve the problem.
Panel HR and Technical Interview
Interview with 1 HR person and a Pilot or 2 Pilots. 1/2 HR questions, the other 1/2 Technical Questions.
Flight Planing Excercise
You and another candidate is are each given some background information, A set of data. You will be guided by one of the HR staff through the excercise to come up with the best solution. You will be quized at each stage of the interview.
Management Interview
Interview with a management type. Either a senior pilot or fleet manager etc etc.
Medical
You will be tested on to see whether you can obtain a HKCAD class 1 medical. You must have at least
... Eyesight that can be corrected to 20/20
... Normal Color Vision
... no chronic sickness
Flight Grading
You are sent down the Australia to undertake a course that is designed to measure your ablity to pass the full 60 week course on time. It tests your ablity to learn and pick up new skills, and retain them. Items tested include
...level flight
...climb
...decent.
...turn.
...steep turns
...landing
...circuits

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Initial Testing





30 min Quick Medical (eye sight, hearing, height, weight)
5min Presentation on topic given to you before the interview
The topic has always been, "The training aspects of the Cadet Pilot Programme."

1st Stage Interview
45min Interview with Flight Crew Recruitment Specialist.

Est. Pass combined rate of the above 2 items is ~ 1/6

Second Stage Interview
The second stage Interview and test consists of a full day at CX city.
30min Computer based Numeracy Test
This is a typical numeracy test where you are given 11 sets of data and 3 question to answer. You will be given a question booklet , pencil and paper and will select the correct answer out of a possilbe 16 on the computer.
45min Computer based Psychological Test
You will be asked 187 questions on the screen. Answer yes/not sure/no
45min written technical Quiz

60 min Group Excersie
4 candidates will be given a set of data each, and will be required to work together inorder to select best solution. The general layout will be like this.
...Here is a problem.
...We are given a whole list of restictions.
...Find the restirctions.
...Eliminate the non-sulutions.
...Select the best remaining one.
Answer a few questions about the whole excercise.

90min Flight Planning exercise conducted with another cadidtate.


60min Generals interview with technical component.


Est. Pass rate of stage III is around ~ 1/5

Management Interview
60 min Interview with a members of Management and a senior Pilot.




Est. Pass rate for the full 60 week cadet course in Australia is over 90%)




FAQ on the cadet selection process

Q: What do they ask in the interviews ?
A: Its pointless knowing what they ask becuase the questions change every time. Knowing what they ask will just make you think up the "model answer" and I belive that the flight crew recruitment people are very good at what they do. They can "read you like a book".

Q: Whats the best way to prepare for the interviews ?
A: Know yourself better and be who you are.

Q: Whats the most common mistake candidates make?
A: IMO the most common mistake is that many candidates have no clue of what they are getting into. This show up in the interview and you have 3 of them to pass.

Q: What are the eye sight standards ?
A: Correctable to 20/20 vision. no colour blindness.

Q: How I am so sure of the details.
A: I aren't, the above represents a best guess.

[JetDriverWannabe]

KA Selection details. Details from knowledgeable sources have indicated that the KA process looks like the following.

KA Stage 1(Initial Medical Checkup)
You will be invited to attend a brief medical check up which tests, weight/height and eyesight at a medical practice in Central.
Standards expected:
The candidate has healthy BMI.
Vision that can be corrected to 20/20.
You have normal Color Vision.

KA Stage 2(Computer Pilot Appitude test)
You will be invited to play some computer games in KA house with the joystick. Tasks include:
Keep the cursor in the center.
Quick maths questions, is 924 - 4 = 920 true?
Keep check of the pattern etc etc.
Do all 3 above at the same time.

This test is much harder than the Cathay Pacific one.

KA Stage 3 (1st Interview)

KA Stage 4 (2nd Interview + Numeracy + Group Exercise)

KA Stage 5 (Flight grading)



Question 1: What are the vision requirements ?

From previous discussion in the forums, It is generally thought that requires that a cadet's vision be correctable to 20/20. Eyeglasses are allowed.
Corrective eye surgery is however not recommended.
CX is belived to require normal color preception. Color vision for CX is belived to be measured with the Ishihara Test for color blindness. Examples here. (http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html)


Will be adding more later..

Question 2: CX cadet program Hong Kong Residence Requirements. What is a Hong Kong permanent residents?

The above means that that the applicant must have a Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card. In order to quailfy for one you must meet the requirements set by the Imigration services Department of the HKSAR. Details here. (http://www.info.gov.hk/info/roa.htm)

[jetjockey696]

Hi JetDriverWannabe


Thanks for the heads up. One more thing if you help me with, Stage 2 interview....what type of computer numeracy is it????. Are there any types of books I could use to prepare, for the test. My math is kind of weak right now.

Any type of help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[qsp888]

is cathay still hiring under the current difficult times?
what about those already hired but yet to report to duty?
any more training?

[JetDriverWannabe]

I am not sure about the current status of hiring at Cathay at the moment...Some have said that all hiring has stopped. Others say abit is still going on.

Lets take a look at the situatation. Currently, it is extimated that cathay is loosing ~US$3 million a day.
Any competent corprate officer would probably take action to reduce cash outflow ASAP as it is unlikely that any the passenger numbers are going to pick up soon.

Therefore, it would be safe to say that high-budget expenses like flying you in for an interview or sending you down under for flight grading would be called off.

As for people who have been hired but yet to report for duty?
I don't know what will happen to them.

One thing for sure, if the drop off does not statbilize by the end of may. The corprate officers would probabaly take additional cost cutting measures.

[Flying Bagel]

Unfortunately, there is no hiring as of this moment. Those who have been signed as direct entry are doing their courses now, but there are no more new hires that will be going through the system as of May.

As for the cadet courses, there have been a few candidates which have gone as far as the second interview phase. But there will be no courses starting this year anymore, if you're looking at putting in your resume in, you're likely to be waiting till next year.

[sourgrapes]

Not that it necessarily means that much but I just received an application packet from them postmarked April 23.

[ahks]

According to Cathay's website, under job search in the careers section, they are still hiring cadets.

They are doing cadet interviews in the end of June and July, but still haven't yet confirmed. Because SARS in HK has already peaked with fewer new cases, it is highly probably that interviews will commence then.

[Flying Bagel]

You can still apply, and why not? If you can get an interview in, you'll probably be put into the pool of possible qualified cadets, and you'll probably be put in priority as to when you'll get called again for more interviews. However, flight grading has been put on hold for now, so the furthest you'll get at this stage is probably the second interview.

If you get a package, do reply. There is nothing to lose in this matter.

But again, there is no course for this year, the next one most likely will begin in March 2004. There is already a backlog of DE and current cadets who will probably be in a waiting list when they get back to HK.

In fact, the last batch of DE's are in their conversion course now. The rest of the May crop will most likely be sent home for 3 to 6 months, at least until the airline recovers to sustainable capacity figures.

So don't get discouraged if CX does not call you back. It may be that things are not where they're supposed to be for more new hires at this moment.

[rumour reader]

ahks,
the most recent posting on the cathay website for cadet recruitment was on march 19th (i.e before sars). There is also a seperate window that pops up to tell you that hiring has been frozen.
Unless you have used a different 'job search' or have another source of information?

[ahks]

Any job postings in the Cathay's career website meant that they are still hiring for those positions. If not, they would have taken it off by now.

Just curious, has anyone been called to or will attend the stage one or stage two cadet interviews in June or July?

[Flying Bagel]

I'm sorry, ahks, there will be no more interviews as of this moment.

People don't update websites often enough, it seems...

[Immel Man]

Just to clear it all up so you don't get your hopes up;

1. NO hiring whatsoever
2. Those cadets due to grad this summer are NOT being offered positions in the company, but are first priority after rebound.
3. DO send your stuff and get on file.
4. DON'T expect a reply until rebound.

That should put ALL hiring questions to bed.

Goodnight

[ahks]

Looks like Cathay is still hiring Cadet pilots. Just check their job posting career website, as of May 20th.

[Flying Bagel]

Okay, there is a difference between accepting resumes, and actual hiring.

You can send in your resumes, and I'm sure Flight Recruitment will be happy to accept them, simply because it will enlarge the pool of candidates that they can select from.

So go ahead, ahks, send in your resume. But don't expect an interview anytime soon.

[Guru]

There probably won't be anymore courses this year.
But then don't be despondent, Cathay will hire again and in greater numbers than before.

[ahks]

This is good news. Cadet interviews are being held again in June and July. Anyone going to attend?

[hkwannabe101]

ahks,

I dont want to offend, but that seems pretty soon considering the state of CX at the moment. How sure of this are you?

hkw101

[ahks]

Those contacted for interviews in June, July and August will know that this is true. Give them a call, if you don't believe me.

[Tungx2]

it's true, the interviews are on again:ok:

[BigTimeWannabe]

If any of you have checked the CX website you will notice they posted an ad for Cadet Pilots on the 20th May!!! Even though there's a pop-up window saying that they are freezing all employment!!!

Cheers

BTW

[Flying Bagel]

I was just told that there may be a course on before the year is over. Possibly even by September. It seems that the recovery forecast is getting more and more optimistic.

If that's the case, good luck to all of you who applied.

[JetDriverWannabe]

I would like to ask, which number to call if you want to update your contact details on a application.

Thanks

[roy_leung]

I failed my detailed medical exam for the Cadet Pilot Programme at CX. Does anyone know if it is possible to contact flight recruitment to find out which part of the medical exam I've failed?
Also, it is possible to request a copy of my info that they have in their files?
Thanks in advance!

[smallwing]

Why don't you just call and ask?

Chances are they might not give you a report, or maybe they like you and give you one..

No guarantees bud..

[roy_leung]

I'll for sure find out the reason from them since there's nothing to lose, right? thanks smallwing!!

[smallwing]

No worries man...just don't be sarcastic when you call, be very polite..

They might give you this issue with privacy ordinance that they cannot pass you this info, but perhaps you can go to the medical center and pick it up yourself.

Remember, you do not have anything to lose.

Cheers.

[sigma]

The following are the people in recruitment last I heard:-

Peggy Chung assistant manager cadets tel 8560
Pauline Kwan flight crew recuitment specialist FO tel 8261
Ada Tsang recruitment services officer tel 4027
Cherry Chu " " " tel 4034
Amy Cheung " " " tel 8204
Belinda Chan Flight crew specialist tel 8915
Monica Chang Flight crew recruitment specialist tel 8249

Good Luck and Good Day.

[smallwing]

You seem to be violating people's privacy when you print there numbers here..

Was it specified for you to do so by CX and did you have full consent from the people to have outsiders ring them up out of the blue..

You might want to rethink that, I am sure there is a true channel for finding out info on recruitment.

[BlueEagle]

Thanks for your concern Smallwing , in this case we are talking about a well published company list, rather than personal 'phone numbers.

The last time I saw the CX 'phone list it was a bound volume available throughout HK, think I may have seen it in the Dickens Bar!;)

Well, not quite. Just so long as no personal 'phone numbers/contact details are given.

regards,

BlueEagle - Moderator.

[smallwing]

No worries, BE.

I guess I was more thinking if I were in these people's shoes, it is already busy enough to get even more calls to just to answer questions..

Might be a consideration perhaps that is why when you go in for an interview with these people, they always look upset at something? Hahahah!

[sigma]

ah, the Excelsior, what great memories ! Need I say more

[ChaSewBow]

Just to let people know. The General Interview stated in the first post of this thread to take place during Stage I, now takes place between Stage I and Stage II.

So if you are successful with the English Test, Aptitude Test, IQ Test, and Quick Medical you will be called back for a 30-45 minute general interview.

This is what has happened to me anyway.

Regards

[9527]

Does anyone know what kind/type of questions the interviewers will ask during the 1st and 2nd interview of the Cadet Pilot Program? I have a interview very soon and not sure how to prepare for it. I saw an earlier post saying that they will ask technical questions, how technical those questions would be? What kind of material I need to study for the interview?

thanks for any suggestions in advance.:D

[mrben]

You don't need to study anything. This is for the Cadet Programme, they don't expect you to know anything technical yet. Just go in there and be yourself, and prepare for all sorts of general knowledge questions. Who you are, What are your hobbies, etc..

[dimsum]

Sorry if this has been posted before, but roughly how would it take btwn sending in the application package and expecting a call for an interview?

Sorry (again) if this has also been posted before...

For the Cadet interviews, where will they be if I'm in the Toronto area (HK, Vancouver, some other place)...and if they are in HK as rumoured, how long (roughly) would I have to go there for to get the interview done with?

[9527]

The 1st and 2nd interview for the Cadet Pilot Program will take place in HK. You would need to prepare yourself to be in HK for roughly 3 weeks if you are invited for the 1st interview, the reason is Cathay could conduct the 2nd interview during your stay in HK so you don't need to go back for the 2nd time.

[ahks]

What's the situation with the cadet interviews so far? Anyone reached stage 3 or stage 4 yet?

It seems like they are doing stage one and stage two interviews almost every month since June. Is it because they can't find enough qualified candidates after the interviews or they just need a lot of cadets?

[cessna172r MSN]

hey guys,
someone in the forum have mentioned that once you can reach 20/20 with glassess, u can pass the eyesight requirement for cx cadet pilot programme. If one who can reach 20/20 with serious shortsightness, will cx also accept him? Thank a lot.

[mrben]

If you can reach 20/20 with the use of glasses, what's the use of that!? Someone might be able to walk with a prosthetic leg, but you're still a Handicapped. You should be able to reach 20/20 without the use of glasses.

[ahks]

I heard that some cadets couldn't make it through the program in Adelaide. What's the drop out rate for cadets in the program and ex-cadets after the program?

For cadets with previous flying experience, is the course much shorter than 60 weeks?

Also, is it true that all ex-cadets fly in the passenger fleet, and not the freighter fleet?

[grim23]

Hi guys,

I've just a quick question regarding the 1st post on this thread. It says for the stage 2 interview, there's a written technical quiz and a general interview with technical component.

I'm just wondering how technical component will be b/c I've read on another post, that they don't require you to have any technical know how for applying for the cadet position.

Thanks a lot!

[lepetitprince]

follow up questions on eye sight requirement.

Anyone can tell do cx really accept candidates with corrected lens? or in order to keep the good public image of no discrimination, they just kick u out with a false reason after medical check although u got 20/20 with lens?!
Any successful example can pass 1st 2 round medical checks and enter final stage or even get recriuted with glasses?

Moreover, laser is not recommended = still in fair competition with normal eyes?

for a short sighted man should stop dreaming or go for it?
I think this information is very important to the 4 eyes guys like me.

Thank you for your constructive advices.

[iMad]

mrben:

If you can reach 20/20 with the use of glasses, what's the use of that!? Someone might be able to walk with a prosthetic leg, but you're still a Handicapped. You should be able to reach 20/20 without the use of glasses.

TOTAL BS. And yes, I know that for a fact. mrben, please get your facts straight before posting. I wear glasses and I got in. And believe me, I'm talking from experience. But you don't need to take my word for it, a simple phone call to the HKCAD will immediately squash your quote mrben.

DO NOT give up. If its truly your dream to fly for an airline, then go for it, or at the very least call up HKCAD and ask them what the current regulations regarding eyesight is, then you'll know what I'm talking about.

On a side note, I'm just a bit concerned with those who claim they "really" want to be pilots. IMHO, being a pilot should be something that you've always wanted to be. It should be a "life-long dream" type of thing. If this is true, you really should be enthusiastic enough to ask the people in the know (HKCAD, CX, KA, outside AMAs, etc....) and not asking people on a "rumours" website then doubting them. If you think you want to become a pilot just because the employment situation in HK is bad now, or you think its cool wearing that uniform and getting to know all the FAs, or because the whole of HK now is applying because of the TV program, then forget it. The aviation world is dominated by those who have a genuine love for it, you will not enjoy nor survive it if its just a spur of the moment thing.

AHKS:

For cadets with previous flying experience, is the course much shorter than 60 weeks?

No. Not a wee bit shorter, let alone much shorter. There is currently a cadet in Adelaide who has an Australian CPL/CIR and frozen ATPL. He funded himself privately and got his license from the same school (BAE Systems) 3 years ago. He is doing the whole 60-week course without any reduction in the syllabus.

[YMMBB]

I totally agree with iMad about people applying for cadatship without really interested in the aviation field as a pilot won't be able to make it or even if they can make it,it won't last for long.

But being accepted as a cadet pilot for either airlines woudn't just require those candidates to have class A medical, right? I checked with HK CAD that people can be shortsighted and still be able to get the class A medical, but there is limit in the degree of how much they are shortsighted. Even with people with LASIK done on their eyes, they are still be able get the class A, just have to wait a year (as I remember) after the surgery. Anyway, my point here just about clarifying what the CX standard really is from people's experiences.

I believe CX and KA wouldn't really tell you what their standards are,right?

[iMad]

YMMBB, as far as I know, CX "seriously frowns upon" those who have done LASIK so I would strongly recommend NOT to perform that surgery.

As far as what their correction limit is, the airlines probably won't tell you but I do know of a cadet who had -4.5 (450 degrees in Chinese speak) correction and got in last year.

[lepetitprince]

iMad, thanks for your encouragement so much!
Btw, I had asked some ppl in airlines but they did have quit diff. views on the matter. Anyway, I've wasted a few years already, so if a -450 candidate really can make it, y dont me make a try too?! ;)

To be a commerical pilot is somehow quit diff. from just having a dream to fly. So let's get prepared and wish to see u all in fit on day. :ok:

[YMMBB]

With the LASIK issue, I have a friend who is a current CX cadet with the LASIK done to his eyes but still got in.

All I would say is todays standards are quite different to the old days, they used to NOT give any chances to those who are shortsighted and have LASIK done. But really, as they are looking for more cadets these days, they kind of lowered the standard for quite a lot, we might say its easier to get in comparing to 8-10 years ago. In reality, I believe the probability of chinese having shortsighted are much more than people with normal vision, some experts claimed that our DNA could be one of the main factors.

[ahks]

Why is it that cadets with previous flying experience still have to go through the full 60 week course in Adelaide? They are already licensed though...

Also, are cadets assigned to passenger fleets only?

[Flying Bagel]

Because having a license does not mean you were taught 'properly'. In fact, having a license really means nothing at all, unless if you have the prerequisite hours in your logbook. That's called 'experience'.

Still, there are direct entry guys who've flown for years on jets, and end up having a hard time flying the Duchess.

Cadets are passenger fleets only.

[mrfox]

Hi everyone. I have just discovered this forum and been reading for the past few days, and found them extremely imformative. Thanks guys! :ok:

I checked with HK CAD that people can be shortsighted and still be able to get the class A medical, but there is limit in the degree of how much they are shortsighted.

Some info regarding the JAR1 medical standards:

#5 Distant visual acuity, with or without correction, shall be 6/9 or better monocularly, and 6/6 or better binocularly.

# 7 At initial examination the refractive error shall not exceed +/-3.00 dioptres along the most ametropic meridian with no more than +/-2.00 dioptres astigmatic component and no more than 2.00 Dioptres of anisometropia.

EDIT: should be +/- 5.00 dioptres rather than 3.00

[jaywoo]

Hi I'm new to the forums, just got a coupla questions i wanted to ask.

1) "5 passes in HKCEE / O-Level, including Physics and Mathematics, together with 2 passes in HKAL / A levels, preferably in Science"

Taken from the CX CPP page, i'm just curious are these high school grades? (hopefully someone from HK can answer) and could anyone hazard a guess to NSW HSC equivalent?

Also, should i bother applying if i'm not currently a HK permanent identity card holder? The thing is I was born in HK so shouldn't be a problem for me getting permanent residency.

Cheers!

[mrfox]

JW:

If you look at the application form, you'll see that you'll need a HKPIC #. You can obtain a HKPIC while overseas.
http://www.immd.gov.hk/ehtml/hkid_oversea.htm

I believe O-levels are examinations taken at Form 5 (Year 11). A-levels are examinations at Form 7 (Year 13). However, I have no idea how Ozzi stuff transfers over. Sorry.

[shingt]

Hi guys,

I had just blew my CX cadet interview (second stage), I got a brain fart during the technical interview.

After reading all the posts on this thread, I think I should spit it out since I've just finished.

Regarding myopia, I am wearing glasses but the medical officer said it is ok if I got perfect eye sight with corrective lens (I am 450).

CX has split the interview proocess a bit after the SARS. everything about Stage I are correct but no interview for me on that day. I did a short interview two weeks after the written test and they were just asking for question like "Why would you want to be a pilot?" "What have you done so far to get your dream come true ?" "Have you tried other airline (talking about dragon)?",etc.

After I passed the initial interview, they call me up for a long medical (about an hour). I got another call after a month (yes a month) and told me to get my ass come down to CX city (that's stage II). They sent me a booklet regarding the basic knowledge about aviation. It was about 50 something pages, but a lot of infomations need to find out by yourself.

Stage II interview has a group discussion with the guys you are interviewing on the same day. (new staff) and others are the same as stated before.

One more thing I would say, as soemone said it before in this thread. Do not take this as a job, ask yourself whether you like to be an airline pilot or not. This is not something you seem it on TV or movie, every airline in this world is looking for someone can work under pressure and get the job done safely. They are not looking for hero.

BUT if you have genuine interest in FLYING, you better get your ass together and type up a resume and send it to CX. I can tell you what I am going to do, I will go get my PPL and apply for the cadet again next year (yes you read me right, failed applicant has to wait one year, that's what I heard after I got the reject letter, painful)

So much of what I am gonna say, thank you for reading my bull****.

Everything is true and if you have doubt, better call CX or check out the web site than putting question mark here.

[PedroUSB]

Hi guys, this is my first post.

I have color deficiency but I still want to be an airline pilot.
I read in the first or second post that Cathay uses the ishihara test for color vision. I took that once in the Air Force medical and didn´t pass it, simply didn´t see two or three numbers.

But after that they called me to another room. I went and did another two tests which I passed flawless, like that one where you organize a number of barrels of close shades of colors. And one more where you match one colored dot with four more near it, all of them of very-like shades.

Does this mean I, even though have the deficiency, have a shot? Is the ishihara the ONLY masuring test they (Cathay) give you for color vision?

thanks

[Penske]

I went through the Cathay 2nd interview process in February and one of my group failed the color blindness charts. He said he is partially red-green deficient and the ONLY test he cannot pass is the ishihara plate test.

The Cathay nurse didn't miss a beat when he couldn't complete the ishihara test. She took him another room and did a color lantern test which he passed. That was the last he heard of that issue.

As you may know, color blindness doen't get better or worse with time - if you can pass the alternate tests, I think you will be fine.

Good luck.

[vvx2]

Hi all,

Thanks for the sharing from shingt and Penske.

I will go for the first CX cadet interview next week. Could you share more details about this interview?

Besides, i got a short sight of 200. And the previous post mentions about the 20/20 eye sight test. I would like to know what it is about.

Thanks a lot!!

[vvx2]

Hi all,

Thanks for the sharing in the above thread.
I have received a call from CX for the 2nd stage interview today.

I have some questions:
1. For the Knowledge Test, it is hold in the form of a presentation, Q&A or both?
2. Since the Knowledge Test already cover the book CX send me, what the technical interview will be about? the info besides the book? if yes, what other material should i study? the previous thread suggests the following books, but i think i have no enough time to study all of them. Which book is the most appropiate?
- To be a pilot
- From the Ground Up: Training Manual for Pilots
- Rod Machado's Private Pilot Handbook
- The Air Pilot's Manual
- Flying Training Book 1
3. For the Personality Test, I have no experience on it. What is it about and what should i prepare?

Thanks a lot!!

[cyrex]

The Technical Quiz is all Multiple Choice. And if you want to do more research, i will suggust the book "From the Ground Up". As well, a tip for the Personality test, don't spend all your time thinking about the question, just use your instincts to answer them.

[vvx2]

thanks a lot :D

[Hydrolix]

Cadets with experience have to do the full 60 week course for two main reasons.

Firstly, even if you do have flying training under your belt you were not taught the "Cathay" way, or the way in which Cathay stipulates how you should be taught.

Secondly, even if you have a license of some sort (ie CPL), chances are it is not a Hong Kong license but rather an Australian, UK, FAA, Canadian, JAA etc. The Hong Kong CAD will not provide exemptions to cadets with prior experience because it is part of their policy as they don't consider cadets to have relevent experience to do so.

Regards
Hydro

[mochiman]

Hydro - check your pm please.

Thx

[pcboy]

"Why do you want to be a pilot?"

How did u answer that in your application form? How long did you wait after submitting your application before you got notify for an interview.

I am short sighted by 650 degree. can i still apply?

Thanks!

[lostnomad]

Hi all,

I would have the 2nd interview with KA in 2 weeks.
I was told that it would be a technical one.

Unlike CX, KA wont send any material to me to prepare for the interview..., I am wondering if you guys could tell me ...

1. What areas has been covered in the 50pages booklet that CX send you before the 2nd Stage?
Aerodynamics, Meterology, Aircraft instrument systems, navigation planning???

2. How in depth does this booklet go into?
3. For KA 2nd Interview, anyone knows how indepth they would ask you?

Thx a lot

[fhchiang]

hello..

i'm a 17 yr old malaysian this year...

can anyone tell me how to get PR Status in HK?

[peterpang007]

hi everyone

i would like to apply for the cx cadet program after graduation next year. since i wonder if my eyesight, especially colour vision, can fit the HKCAD requirment to be a pilot, i appreciate if you could tell me where i can have a medical check or simply eye check in Hong Kong.
or which institutions are authorized to conduct such exam?
although i understand cx would check it for the applicant, i want to clarify my situation before application.

thank you very much!!

[gs400]

I have a pretty lame question..
but does anyone know the height and weight requirement ?
cuz I am a bit too slim .. 5'9 tall but only around 120 lbs.. would I be disqualified due to my weight ?

[Flying Bagel]

5'9", 120 lbs?

Jesus, you are a twig. There is a physical test during the interviews where they see if they can snap you in half (to simulate G forces). If your back breaks, too bad for you.

They won't drop you because of weight, there is no hard labour involved, except for the push starts...

But your fitness is a concern. They won't want someone who reports sick all the time. I hope that is not the case for you.

[seawolf21]

For those who've been through the interviews...

Please provide more details. Thanks!

Stage I 200 min

60min English Test (Listening and Grammer) - Proctor reads out passage and candidates base answer on it? Multiple choice?
45min Written Aptitude Test - Essay? How many?
35min Written IQ Test - Multiple choice?
30min General Interview with Recuritment officer on F/O
30min Quick Medical (eye sight, hearing, height, weight)

Stage II 315 min
30min Computer based Psychological Test
30min Computer based Numeracy Test - Calculators allowed? What about pen/paper?
90min Flight Planning exercise conducted with another cadidtate.
45min written technical Quiz
60min Generals interview with technical component.
60min Aircrew Medical

Thanks for any details.

[gs400]

5'9", 120 lbs?

Jesus, you are a twig. There is a physical test during the interviews where they see if they can snap you in half (to simulate G forces). If your back breaks, too bad for you.

They won't drop you because of weight, there is no hard labour involved, except for the push starts...

But your fitness is a concern. They won't want someone who reports sick all the time. I hope that is not the case for you.




thanks bud, that pretty much is my concern cuz I have a hard time gaining weight. As for calling in sick, I have only done that once so far.

[Koyo]

Essay writing? Damn I'm dead since my spelling is horrible and my grammar is really bad as well.

[h01593420]

Then I think being a pilot isnt your cup of tea
you should instead pursue english studies elsewhere

[K3nnyboy]

hey man there wasn't nay essay writing for me tho...hehe lucky me since my grammar n spelling aint that good either.

But is it a really big deal for a pilot? Cos they have to teach you technical languages anywai....well, no offense to the pilot out there, but I been in this airline b4 where the pilot speaks what I called "not -that-good" english b4.....couldn't really understand him much.

sorry guy in my last post, i mistyped the word "any" oops.....told ya all me bad bad english LOL

[creasian]

Hi everybody,

I'm somewhat interested in the cadet programme. Anyone know if they are only taking in resumes or are they actually hiring? It states having a PR is required. Although I dont have pr, can i still apply for the programme before applying for a PR? oh btw im a US resident.

thanks

[Koyo]

Don't think so. From my prespective, it's a program intend to create local pilots. Therefore, if you don't have a PR then you don't qualify for the program. The last time I checked the only way to get PR is either you're born in HK, like most of us, or lived there for 7 years. I think given your current citizenship, you can only join thru direct entry, which require Pilot in Command experience I believe (please search the forum on this).

[creasian]

Taken from this website:
http://www.immd.gov.hk/ehtml/hkid_oversea.htm

My mom lived there for over 7 years. Although now she resides here in NY, can I get a PR through her?

Thanks

[a9733232hkg]

Hi creasian,

Unfortunately you won't be able to get HK PR through your mom if she lived there for 7 years. The only way you'll get it is if your mom was born in HK. Personally, I think the fastest way for you to get the HK PR is to marry with someone from there. This way, you'll get it within 6 months. Good Luck.

[seawolf21]

creasian.

I would just ask the immigration dept.

If your mom didn't have PR when you were born, I don't think you'll be able to claim PR.

a9733232hkg,

Are you sure about PR in 6 months? I think the spouse is still subject to a 7 year residency requirement.

[a9733232hkg]

Hi seawolf21,

If the spouce was born in HK, then the other can have PR within 6 months or a bit longer depending on the number of applications. That's what I was told by the immigration officer when I was at Wan Chai immigration building last summer.By the way creamasian, you can't have double citizenship if you're a US citizen according to US immigration.

[seawolf21]

In theory, you can't have dual citizenship according to US laws but it's no longer really enforced. The US doesn't really care if you obtained a dual citizenship via marriage/birth. They're more concern if you obtain another citizenip via naturalization (as it involves taking an oath to another state) but again, it's rarely enforced.

The only requirements they do have is that you must enter and leave the US on your US passport and pay taxes in your worldwide income.

[horace17]

hi

just got a quick question folks. i know there is this min height requirement, but do any of you know if there is any max height requirements? I am pretty sure every airline has its own height restrictions. I know many of you will be saying " Why dont u call up cx and ask, oh well.. i want to ask in this forum first.. who knows CX HR staffs might have accounts in pprune.. lol.....

Yeah so if u know the answer, or rumour, please advise me in this thread or even pm me.

Thank You!

Horace

[horace17]

hey, thx for the input there. so your friend got in thru the cadetship or d/e..etc? it would be nice to know as well.... build up my confidence, so to speak.

thanks once again, u've made my day


muuuuuah


horace

[tcglam]

Hi Horace,

I think there is a height limit.
I think it's 193 cm.

Correct me anyone if I'm wrong.

TC

[hekokimushi]

quick question about reapplication to CX cadets, i searched... but not much luck with returned results.

i e-mailed Ada and Belinda regarding details for re-application. do they prefer personalily calling them? as for the time difference, it is a little difficult but it can be done. i e-mailed them and have not yet received a reply.

regards,

from another wannabe based in the UK

[FlyingMoggy2]

i emailed ada once but never got a reply, well it was addressed to ada but i didn't have her exact email, i think the problem was i sent it to the cadet department and no one bothered replying

phoning them would be my suggestion, btw what did u want to ask them about?

[hekokimushi]

just wanna ask about any thing new. wanna update my CV not a lot really and update my flying experience etc.

nothing much.

[Koyo]

193 cm is like 6.33 feet which is like 6 feet 4 inches. If you actually read their website it says 1.6m tall. Using Google, 1.6m is about 5 feet 3 inches. As for reapplying, I think it's 1 year. At least that's the figure used in most D/E application. May not apply to cadet program. I wouldn't expect a reply so quick from CX since they most likely get flooded by a lot of email asking about the program.

[tcglam]

193 cm is like 6.33 feet which is like 6 feet 4 inches. If you actually read their website it says 1.6m tall. Using Google, 1.6m is about 5 feet 3 inches.

Yes, I agree with you. But what Horace was asking is the height limit, not the height requirement.

The height limit is around 193 cm.
And if the question your height, they will ask you to sit in a simulator.

[tcglam]

so not sure on where you get your numbers?

From the career talk at HKU.

[a9733232hkg]

Hi fellow pilots,

I was quite amazed by all posting under this topic. does anyone knows if Hong Kong SAR in a member of ICAO? What's consider a bad eyesight?

Thanks ahead

[flyingleck]

hi all,
i'm have my 2nd stage interview comming up shortly and would like any tips or pointers on it in regards to the flight planning and the group exercise.

many thanks.

[pcboy]

i would like to know more about the 2nd stage too.

[hekokimushi]

hi,

since CX is now currently promoting their cadet programme in HK. and since their selection process have changed, anybody whom has failed and wish to reapply or info that whom can point me in the right direction, should i reapply right now when they are looking really hard? i appled last june, interviewed and failed after stage 2 back then. i now had some major change, and wish to inform them to update my details however, i am not sure if i should just call in and ask regarding this matter, i.e. reapply with a new application form, and this time, no medical sheet to fill in, instead of just sending my updated CV.

thanks in advance,

regards,

nelson

[Project Big 1]

I went through the CX selection process last summer, making it to the management interview.

From what I gather from talking to other people and other threads, Cathay will only consider you for re-selection after 12 months have expired from the end of your previous attempt.

[ypk]

Hi:

I've read this forum and found differing answers regarding the vision requirements for the cadet program. Can someone who had gone through the selection process/medical check clear the confusion once and for all?

Do they only require that your vision be correctable to 20/20 with glasses, regardless of how bad your vision is without them?
or are there other additional requirements ??

Thanks anyone who can provide the info

[tomcatrl]

Hi All:

After reading thu this thread, there were a lot of useful info.


Just to confirm, other then Stage 2 or possibile Stage 3 interview will have technical questions,
Does Stage 1 have tecnical questions at all?

If I mention I have my PPL with Night Rating, CRL & INRA writen complete in my resume,
should I be prepare for question about those area or aircraft type that I flew at any stage of interview?

For 2nd Stage interview, how tecnical can those question be?
Is the following book enough?
--From The Ground Up
--Flight Training Manual
--Air Command Weather Manual
--Aviation Weather
Should I study A.I.P. , CAP Gen?
Do I need to/Is it worth it to get a the CX 744 and 777 video to watch? or learn about 744 and 777's system?

Will I be need to explain Jet engine relates theory?
Hot start, structure, EPR, compressor/turbine, Turbo Jet Vs, Turbo Fan, Engine location, Single Vs Multiple Shaft, etc?

Do I need to explain how avionics works such as VOR, DME, NDB, etc?


For Stage 3 Management interview,
If will take a CRM course, will it be useful?
If I had that in my application, should I be prepare to answer harder question?


As of the interview in general, do ask you a lot of question quickly and expect you to answer the same way?
or
they will allow your have some time to think (3-5sec) and take your time to answer?

Are the interviews done in Chinese or English? or Both?

Are all the writen test done on computer?, no essay writing, right?
Just fill in the blanks and Multiple Choice?

For Flt planning, is it just like any x-county flt in PPL lesson?
It's all about IFR Vs VFR, Route, Distance, Time, loading, Weather, Fuel, Reserve Fuel, Alternate, Nav Aid & Freq, etc?

Is it a IFR or a VFR flight plan?


I am so nervous about this,
I know I asked a lot, but hopefully some can be answer

Good luck to all

Patrick

[yammi]

Be prepared to answer technical questions at any stage. i don't have a license but I do have some hours, and I was asked a few simple ones in stage 1. Personally I don't think you need to know very complicated stuff (I was not asked any jet questions in the first 2 stages) unless you have a lot of flying experience (or jet experience). If they ask you some very hard question that you don't have a clue, then it's likely that they just want to see you reaction. However, if you have a private license, then you better know the stuff you learned to pass the private exams. If you have some but not much flying experience and really want to find something to read...then I think from the ground up is enough...but do know the basic stuff from your flight training.

Be expected to communicate in English; all instructions are given in english and interview are done in English as well. There is no essay writing, but expected to write a short report after the flight plan excerise in stage 2. (instructions will be give so don't worry and there's enoughof time to do it)

You can answer the questions after thinking about it. It's up to you how you want the interview to be. They are not going to force you for an answer. You can answer quickly and they will ask another one (then they can know more about you); or you can answer slowly and give some intelligent answers.

The flight plan is just looking at tables and putting info together. Instructions will be give to you. It is designed so that any one can do it , including those w/o flying experience. (so it's not vfr or ifr)

Have fun preparing.

[tomcatrl]

yammi
Thank you for your reply,
there was some very good info and it helps a lot,
I think it will help others, too.

[topgun200204]

hi JetDriverWannabe,

please read your PM...i've sent you a message...

thank you very much!

[kto]

Hi all,
It's my first time posting here. I would you to help to verify this. I kind of saw the CX Cadet Pilot Programme posting on Classified.com about 2 weeks ago. But I cannot find it now anymore. Could you one please tell me if the recruitment has started again? or I just missed it 2 weeks ago?

Please help. Thx.

[BigTimeWannabe]

Hi Everyone,

I went to 1st stage interviews last year and was unsuccessful. I'm just waiting for my 12months to lapse before reapplying...any advice on how I can improve my chances this time round, for example what are they looking for in re-applicants, and will failing to make it through first time round hinder my chances this time round?

Also I wear glasses (-4 dioptres) still not entirely sure whether this is going to affect my chances for the CX Cadet program!? If anyone can confirm the requirements concerning eyesight, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks everyone, good luck with all your interviews. Hope to work with you all soon.

BTW

[CathayBrat]

Hi,
Was born in HKG to a cathay pilot, now in africa flying, got 1000 hours in light singles and twins. Can i apply to the cadet program, or do i need more time and try for the S/O possition.
Any help?
Cheers

[EPR1.94]

I cant seem to find the medical questionnaire form on the CX website, Can anyone tell me where I could download that form?? thanks guys

[Guru]

CathayBrat,

Cadet applicants are not required to have any flying experience at all. All you need is permanent HK residency and good health to apply.

[CathayBrat]

my hk id card expired a while ago, when we got based in uk. how do i get it back. Got a class 1 unrestricted, so only need the hkg residency.

[taz]

I'm just wondering for those who are or been to their CPP interview, what's the dressing attire? Business suit? or just business casual (Dress pants with botton down shirt)? would wearing a suit be a little over kill? thanks

[PlatinumCross]

Taz, formal dress is required for the interview stage. Applicants are expected to wear business attire so for men, it's a suit, shirt and tie and for women, a business suit jacket with a skirt and pantyhose or pants.

CathayBrat, I think you can just apply for a renewal of your permanant ID card. The number doesn't change, they only take a new photo of you and your thumb prints.

EPR1.94, I remember seeing the medical form on the website last year but they've taken it off since. I don't know why. All I remember is that the form asks us to disclose any medical condition, previous hospital stays and injuries.

[EPR1.94]

a9733232hkg, I am also from canada and finished high school here, i was wondering what i should put on the application form regarding the HKCEE and HKAL section of the form. Thanks

[a9733232hkg]

Hi EPR1.94,

I do think that you need to send your HK public exam results to Cathay. Your Canadian High School diploma is not enough to apply as a overseas candidate based on the requirement. Goodluck on your application.

a9733232hkg

[Hotellima]

EPR1.94, did you take HKCEE or HKAL before? If not, then just ignore the column of HKCEE and HKALE on the application form, there is a column for "other qualifications". As long as you finish your grade 12 and finish the grade 12 test, then should be OK. Good luck!

[EPR1.94]

No I have never went to high school in Hong Kong before. Also, should I list all my provincial exam subjects and my marks and fill it in the "other qualification" column? What should I put in the "years" section? Thank you so much for your input guys.

[Hotellima]

Yes you can list all of your provincial exam subjects and your marks and fill it in the "other qualification" column. For "year", just fill in which year your take the exam.

[a9733232hkg]

Hi Hotellima,

Are you sure someone can apply with a High School Diploma?

[Hotellima]

Hi a9733232hkg, yes i'm pretty sure high school dipolma with provincial exam result is fine as one of my flight school classmates who got into the CPP already.

[EPR1.94]

Hotellima, thanks all your help and also check your PM messages.

a9733232hkg, Im not only applying just with an high school diploma, i also have a Aircraft gas turbine engine certificate, private flying license and currently enrolled in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering.

[a9733232hkg]

HI EPR1.94,

If Hotellima is pretty sure that High School Diploma is enough then, you should apply. I really think that you have a edge with your PPL. Goodluck! I also think the Aircraft Maintenance Engineering course that you're taking now is very good. It's something you can use later on.

a9733232hkg

[Kevin Ho]

Yes, right, Cathay is still hiring people at the moment and should still be in the future (hope so)

[tomcatrl]

esthercheung11

The book "Prepare your CX interview" is more toward DEFO/SE position, not really for CPP.

Some find it useless, somd fine the tech question is little useful.

When is your interview? I will bring one on the way back next week. PM me for further details

[er_yeah]

It's been a while since anyone has posted about the current status of the CX cadet recruitment. Can I ask if anyone has any new info?

[cx007]

CX is still accepting cadet application at the moment and are interviewing people.
A brief notes on what to expect on the inital test:
1. english listening and gramma test
2. reasoning test (like iq test)
3. computer based eye-hand-feet coordination test.
--quick subtraction
--wing span recongnization
--landing
4. a 5 minutes presentation in english
It will started at 830 and last for about 3.5 hours.
I was called 2 days after the inital test for an interview, which is coming soon. Will keep you guys informed of the lastest news.
Good luck to every CPP applicants!:ok:

[grob115]

...

[okano]

just wondering what will be the maths test in the second interview like?
what type of questions?
since it is impossible to finish, i wanna at least have some preparation before going

[29.92"Hg]

Hi everyone,

Here are some thoughts I have for stage 1 and stage 2 and things I would have done differently if I were to do it over again.

Stage 1:

English grammar and listening test:
-The recording has a heavy British accent, listen to BBC radio online to get use to it.
-Grammar test, practice grammar exercises from English grammar books that I can get at the bookstore

Reasoning test:
-It's similar to the Qantas psychometric testing practice sheet, but the 9 patterns are arranged 3 X 3, so you need to figure out the ninth one.
-Because time is limited, just remember what time you started the test so you can pace yourself.
Aptitude test:
-I would consider spending some time at the arcade to train my reflexes OR play flight sim. Again, pace yourself by keeping track of what time you started cause you want to maximize your break time in between the tests to stay refreshed.
-For the quick subtraction questions, practice similar type math problems more.

Presentation:
-Thoroughly research the info for the topic I was given "training aspects of the cadet pilot programme", I am sure that the deeper the research, the more it shows your passion.
-Practice, practice, practice, but not memorized it to the point that it comes out unnaturally cause you are allowed crib notes

I had the initial tests in the morning at 8:30, that afternoon, I received a call for the first interview that took place a week afterwards

First interview:
-My interview started 15 minutes ahead of scheduled, so it never hurts to arrive early


After waiting nearly two weeks, I got the call from CX for the stage 2 interview and shortly afterwards, received the Aviation Knowledge book in the mail.

Stage 2:

Math test (30 min) and personality test (45 min)

-The math test has 33 questions, you're given 2 sheets of paper and a pencil along with a question book, no calculators. Each page has three questions based on the same information that you're presented on the page. The questions have varying levels of difficulties each with 16 choices, so if you get stuck on a hard question, skip it. There is a timer on the screen.
-It gets intimidating because of the time limit. Looking back, the questions are similar to math problems in the GMAT test - again practice makes improvement


-The personality test has no right or wrong answers, but I felt very confused and tired after answering all those questions.
-Again, note what time you started the test in order to pace yourself, so that you will finish the test in 45 minutes. There's no timer on the computer so be sure to take track of time.

Job Knowledge Quiz (45 min)
Of the 50 multiple choice questions, some where based on info on CX's website. I found that studying solely based on the book they send you would not be enough.

Group exercise (1 hour)
-Looking back, there were some stuff I could have done differently, like not get too nervous and get intimidated. They are looking at how you communicate, listen, and problem solve as a team of four people. It's okay not to be the leader, but it's definitely important to be a team player and contribute to the team as each person was given info that the other people don't have. Ideally, everyone takes turn in being a leader and a follower, but due to time limitations, it doesn't not always work out. Seek any opportunity to take initiative as a team player, whether it be keeping track of the time, writing notes on the whiteboard to help organize info, or bring the team back on track. Again, it was easy to get stressed because you're being evaluated and this opportunity means a lot, the stress did cause me to miss some info and negatively affected my performance. Likely, there could be more than one right answer depending on what the group as a whole value as important.

Panel Interview (1 hour)
General questions:

-Tell me about yourself
-How did you think you did today so far
-Life in Hong Kong, how would you adjust
-Longest time away from home
-Do you have a significant other
-If you weren't selected do you know why?
-How would you compare yourself with the other candidates?
-Dragonair- why do you think you were not shortlisted
-If you were to do a task with someone else, would you choose a stronger or weaker partner?
-Why Cathay?
-Why did you choose your major at university? Was it your first choice?
-Tell me about your programme
-Family background
-How did you handle a situation you faced at work?
-Most happiest memory, proudest moment
-Saddest/stressful memory
-What do you do when you are stressed or have a problem
-Area of improvements?
-What would you do if you were unsuccessful?
-What are opportunities in Canada?
-If you had the choice to be based in Canada or HKG, where you would want to be?

Tech
-Identify the a/c model on the desk
-Where is the fuel stored in the B747-400
-Tell me about ISA
-30000 ft , -50C , deviation from ISA
-What do winglets do?
-Why does the B777 have no winglets
-How many aircraft are in our fleet?
-Are you aware of what's going on at Xiamen right now?
-Why is the newest B747-400 equipped with PW4000 engines?
-How does the B747-400 stop on the runway?
-What is reverse thrust?
-Describe the fuel system on the C172
-When was the last time you flew, why?
-Monsoons and typhoons - can a typhoon happen in the winter?
-Flying from YVR to HKG vv. differences in flight duration, why?
-What's lattitude, longitude, Greenwich
-What are HK's coordinates

Do you have any questions for us?


Flight planning exercise (1h30min)
-The instructions are clearly given, but it's up to you to read the details and pay attention to the info you are given. Most of all, be sure to understand it cause after a long day, it could get confusing and it's easy to miss some key points. Improving my mental math skills would be a plus, and definitely, discuss more with my partner to ensure we are both on the same track. It doesn't hurt to ask each other questions to double check. Again, it's important to work together and use all the available resources you have access to. It's not a race to see who gets the calculations done faster but the goal is that both candidates do well and work well.
-Again, don't get stress or nervousness affect you. If you get to sit facing the window, enjoy the view of the runway.
-In the end, we are given 10-15 minutes to prepare a written report based on the flight planning activity and the issues you faced. You may want to include things you would do to improve.


Though the schedule was from 8:30am to 5pm, I did have around 2 hours in between for lunch.
Here are a list of resources I found useful
-From the Ground Up
-Jeppesen Private Pilot Manual
-How to Ace the Technical Pilot Interview - G.Bristow
-Mental Math for Pilots - R McElroy
-Cronus notes
-Airline Pilot Interviews - I. Jasinksi
-Cracking the GMAT -Princetown Review (for math questions)
-forums on pprune.org and www.airliners.net
-support from friends and family


All the best everyone!

[edwinchiu]

Hi everyone,
I'm new here and like most of you I'm v. interested in being a pilot. Thanks for all of your informative posts. I learnt a lot from them.

I just wonder if there's a period of hiring people throughout the year? say what month should I apply or it's the same for the whole year?

another question is about the age, is there an 'ideal' age to apply the cadet program in CX/KA? I'm currently 23 and I want to
apply next year, will I be considered too old?

thanks

[Koyo]

Quick question about the presentation. Is it done infront of a CX hiring panel only or infront of the entire applicant group?

[K3nnyboy]

Hey guys, I am fm Sydney, just re-applied for the CPP for the 2nd time after my failure from last year...now it's the painful waiting for reply period

edwinchiu:

i am sure 23 is not too old at all....i been hearing about people in late 20's or early 30's got into the interview...so i believe it doesn't hurt for u to try.

Quick question too all,
Why don't B777 have winglet? up-til now i still dun get it.

cheers
ken

[29.92"Hg]

Hi Ken and everyone,

From what I have read, the B777 does not have winglets like the A330/340 because engineers have increased its wingspan. Studies have shown that if the wingspan is increased by 4/5 the size of the winglet, it will have the same effects in reducing induced drag. With the wider wing span, the aspect ratio is also increased - thus, less induced drag. The B777ER does have raked wingtips which have a similar effect in reducing induced drag on long haul flights.

For more information, check out http://www.geocities.com/khlim777_my/asIndexpage.htm

[cx007]

Just want to contribute a bit for those who will have the interview soon. Some questions asked in the 2nd stage interview:
Why do you quit the last job?
What do u not like about it?
Why pilot?
Have you applied for GFS?
Other airline?
What will you do if you fail?
What do your family think if it?
How do you prepare?

Technical:
Why winglet on 747?
Why not on 777?
Tell me about the shape of the earth.
(wiht a twin prop model on the table) What happens when one of the engine fail?
How would you fly that thing?
What kind of cloud is it? (with drawing on the board)

Be confident, dont be afraid to think for a while before you answer. Tell them you dont know if you dont. Be polite. Ask if you dont know what'r they asking. Know yourself before you go.
All the best to everyone who will have the interview! Good Luck!.

[Zanski]

does anyone know if there r ever any height exceptions for people below 160 cm?
:(

[cfdwhizkid]

Just been invited for the tests
Stage I 16 May
Stage II week commencing 29/5

Any updated info with regards to the tests in both stages?

Presentation: still training aspects of the cadet pilot programme? anyone has any previous research material saved? mind shed some light on this?

Cheers