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spraygear
10th Jan 2003, 04:36
Does any one know what ever happend re the Koda air 707 story involved with the bust at Southend Uk last year?
HZ123
10th Jan 2003, 06:15
There was a lot on Freight Dogs regarding this and C j-B (pilot) as I recall was given 15 years for his troubles as was the co-pilot given a similar sentence.
With regard to the a/c it is still at SEN but rumour is that it is due to move soon after a service.
spraygear
10th Jan 2003, 22:38
Interesting, Cheers HZ
Unwell_Raptor
10th Jan 2003, 22:54
For the record, CB-J and Peter Carine were each given 20 years, with a minimum time served of two-thirds before parole is considered, i.e. just over 13 1/2 years.
I was at school with CB-J, and it is a bit awesome to think of him being inside until he is pushing 70 years old.
Red Four
11th Oct 2003, 17:35
Believe it is due very shortly to leave for sunnier climes, as 9LLDU
Nineiron
11th Oct 2003, 18:35
'With regard to the a/c it is still at SEN but rumour is that it is due to move soon after a service.'
Church or Hangar?
Loc-out
11th Oct 2003, 21:34
Guess it's heading to Africa or the Middle East.
Interesting to know who is going to operate it.
Will be good to see it flying instead of rotting on the ground.
Number Cruncher
11th Oct 2003, 22:58
I flew out of Southend today and heard the pilot of the Koda 707 call for ATC clearance at 12.50. I had left the fequency before it received clearance so don't know where it went, it went though!!
oligoe
13th Oct 2003, 18:31
It flew from southend to Malta for Maint. Many pictures of the arrival in luqa on airliners.net.
oligoe
HZ123
15th Oct 2003, 19:08
Obigoe; Can you be more spec I could not find the pics yesterday. Do you know why it is in for maint as it has just spent the last six months being serviced and resprayed.
allthatglitters
19th Oct 2003, 00:41
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?airlinesearch=Koda%20Air%20Cargo&distinct_entry=true
HZ123
23rd Oct 2003, 23:32
Thanks for that a good set of photos. I was at SEN today and all that we await now is for something to happen to the venrable B707 HZ-123. One rumour relates to it going to Florida to a museum as I have been told it was the No6 production model. Unless anyone can confirm I believe it is stored on behalf of BAe systems that payed for its C check over three years ago. But who owns it now ?
Why on earth would BAe have been so generous?
JW411
24th Oct 2003, 02:43
HZ123:
I have just looked in an old B707 book of mine and there is no way that your namesake can be the 6th production model. She is a 707-138B, made her first flight on 20/3/59 and was delivered to QANTAS as c/n 17696 VH-EBA on 16/7/59.
The first production aircraft was a 707-121 c/n 17586 N708PA first flight 20/12/57 and delivered to PanAm on 30/11/58.
So, there were at least 100 707s built before they got round to HZ-123.
I seem to remember that QANTAS was one of the few airlines that bought this model. It was virtually a 320B but with the short fuselage. I was once told that they opted for this long-range version because the runway in Bahrain was only 7000 ft long and that was too short for a 320B.
Great things these old books; it's not often that I get a chance to be a complete anorak!
JW411,
The 707-138B has not much in common with the -320B, except the engines.
-121 modified wing with additional center tank fuel, and a shorter fuselage, approximately a foot shorter than a 720.
Maximum all economy seating of 166.
Having said this, it had a twelve hour endurance, quite a long way for the time.
Built specifically for QF.
Personally flew these for awhile, good airfield performance.
HZ123
24th Oct 2003, 20:55
Thanks for interesting info and it does at least provide a thread with the Quantas rumour.
Zalt ; It was alleged that the refurbishment of the a/c by BAe was part of a part exchange deal involving purchase of Hawk trainers for the Saudi Air Force. Perhaps someone can confirm.
The other issue for those that do not know the a/c is it is reputed to have been the personal a/c for the Saudi Ambassador to the USA primarily and secondary for use by the Saudi Ambassador to the UN. Any futher info much appreciated and I accept it has nothing wat soever to do with F dogs.
Clarence Oveur
24th Oct 2003, 21:14
MSN : 17696
LINE : 29
A/C TYPE : B707-138(B)
ENG. TYPE : JT3D-1 (Q)
DEL. DATE : 07/16/59
LAST KNOWN OPERATOR (OWNER) : ROYAL EMBASSY OF SAUDI ARABIA
REG. NO. : HZ-123
SELCAL : AC-GJ
PREV. REG. : N31239, VH-EBA, CF-PWV, N138TA, N220AM, N138MJ
COMMENTS : STD @ SEN IN GOOD CONDITION
stanley
25th Oct 2003, 02:36
the 138B was i think the fastest of the 707s .cruise tables went to .87m and emergency decent .95M
This was the type British Eagle and later Laker used on the Atlantic.
stanley,
Mmo for the -138B is M.91.
Emergency descent the same.
Close...but no cigar.:E
stanley
27th Oct 2003, 00:03
sorry 411A but I am a bit rusty after 25years off the type
Likewise, stanley, been about twenty five at this end as well.
Have to admit...had a look at the old manual.:E :E