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blueb0y79
5th Dec 2002, 22:57
I joined the long queue of applicants on Dec. 5th by applying for a place on this scheme. Has anybody had any feedback (other than the email explained that they have recieved your initial application) ? If selected, when could i expect to go to Southampton ? (the reason i'm asking is because i would like to take a short holiday over Christmas).

blueb0y79

jonnys
6th Dec 2002, 12:38
Nope...I'm also waiting for a reply from CTC about the next stages of the sponsorship. The selection dates for stage 2 are over the next two weeks, so I hope we'll find out fairly soon (especially because we've got the med stuff to fill out beforehand...and actually get to southhampton!)

soloboy
6th Dec 2002, 15:58
Just got a PFO from Mary in CTC :( . I won't be attending the second round so. They mentioned nothing about keeping me on file for future.

One way of looking at it is that I saved £140 plus vat!!

Good luck to anyone left in the hat.

Bottlenose
6th Dec 2002, 17:17
Soloboy, you and I should have a virtual pint and drown our sorrows together. I got the same message from Mary :(

Oh well. I'ts a setback, not the end of the world. I'll get into the RHS some other way.

Training Risky
7th Dec 2002, 00:26
Soloboy and Bottlenose: I'd like to hear what your details are: age, flying experience, qualifications, etc.

I'd like to see what kind of chaps are being accepted or not and for which reasons. Any help would be appreciated.

cheers:)

faa kit
8th Dec 2002, 04:29
got the ok today
dates are 7/12 9/12 14/12 and 21/12
good luck to all

carb
8th Dec 2002, 12:59
I think they are just being very sensible about it. But did you not apply for JMC? Their limit is up to 27. I'm figuring CTC-McA will consider who might suit which stream of the scheme at a later stage, and it will be at that point that they might wish to decide you're too old (or young) for the EasyJet or vanilla CTC-McA sponsorship. Bring it on - if age is brought up in the interview stage ("ah, now I see you are actually too old to be considered by EasyJet or ourselves...") then I'll enjoy the chance to rehearse the arguments.

Anyhow, anyone been assessed this weekend?

Bottlenose
8th Dec 2002, 16:42
Training Risky,

I am in the middle of the age range, educated to degree level and very little flying experience. But I don't know why I was rejected - could be anything.

Good luck to everyone who is through to step 2.

Boing7117
9th Dec 2002, 08:25
Got the email over the weekend to tell me to fill out the next stage forms.


Still a long way to go yet but so far so good !

soloboy
9th Dec 2002, 14:50
Training Risky,

I'm 26 and 30 days...just missed the EZ application by 30 measly days. Anyway have got a degree behind me and have got 35 hours under my belt.

Could anyone who has got through to the interview let us know age, hours, education, etc, so we can get an idea of what they are looking for. If enough people can reply we could build up a bit of a profile of successful candidates.

...or I could just try and ask Mary from CTC out on a date and get the inside track ;) . It may be the only way!!

cortilla
10th Dec 2002, 10:18
i feel kinda special. i got my pfo from jo. (did the stage 2 last month) they didn't tell me why, and they say i can't find out. i also can't re-apply. oh well back to the drawing board. just wish they'd say why, so i can learn from the experience.

poorstudent22
10th Dec 2002, 11:32
Bottlenose,
i am in the same position as you (right age, degree education, no flying experience) yet i have been accepted for stage two. perhaps its more a question of luck than anything else.
Good luck elsewhere.

carb
10th Dec 2002, 12:55
I presume the initial selection is smarter than drawing names out of a hat. The assessment invitation talks about matching a particular profile they are seeking, and I'd guess it is more complex than: a degree, some flying, mid twenties. Maybe they look for evidence of particular characteristics - determination, leadership, for example? So it may be to do with the types of work you've done - or more subtly, the keywords you used to describe your responsibilities in those posts. We can also deduce, because they want to see the certificates as proof, that they give a lot of weight to GCSEs/A-levels.

foghorn
10th Dec 2002, 14:12
Maybe it's like the myth of the airline Chief Pilot who grabbed a half of his airline's massive CV pile, and threw them straight in the shredder, stating 'we don't need unlucky pilots'?

mrsurrey
10th Dec 2002, 14:29
Just got the nod onto the interview stage but I'm wondering if its worth £140. Im at uni and on a very tight budget so its a big deal for me. Working during the hols is out of the question cos im so far behind on my academic work.

The question is what percentage of people at the interview stage do you think will make it all the way through?



[For those who want to know im doing a technical degree, travelled, strong academic record, history of "quality" group/leadership activities. Also tossed in plenty of keywords when talking about myself & i guess i hit the right buttons. Sorry to be a bit vague but its for obvious reasons.]

GuinnessQueen
10th Dec 2002, 15:26
Whether the £140 is worth it depends entirely on what a sponsorship would mean to you.

If flying for a career means the whole world to you (as it does to most people on the forum), then yes, I suppose it is worth it. If an ATPL is your goal and you pay £140 for tests, but don't get the sponsorship, then when it comes to Plan B....self funding, the £140 may seem small in comparison. i.e 1.5 hours flying?

I appreciate what it is like being at Uni and skint (did 5 years myself). If you were to succeed at stage 2, how would you feel about paying £400 for the class1, then signing your name to a £60,000 loan?

So really no-one else can answer that question for you, it depends on your (current) position and what value you place on an ATPL sponsorship.

carb
10th Dec 2002, 15:42
That's true, but we still shouldn't be prepared to go around writing out cheques without any level-headed consideration. I think it's fair enough to want to know just how many people have been invited to stage 2, and personally, I'd be interested to know what we'll get if unsuccessful -- will it be like a GAPAN test and if so do we get a copy of the results? And will we get a hot buffet lunch?

I'm keen, and I'm happy to contribute to aptitude testing costs, but if someone says "step this way and jump out of this window to become a pilot", I'm not that desperate :cool:

big bus driver
10th Dec 2002, 20:38
In answer to the earlier question, I've been invited to the aptitude test day - I'm nearly 27, Mech Eng Degree, 4 years working in Aerospace Industry. Have PPL and about 20-odd hours post PPL, but no additional ratings.

Hope this helps,

BBD.

FunnyOnion
11th Dec 2002, 16:53
Hi there,

I pretty much submitted my application bang on mid-day on the day it went live - Got the message " your application has been submitted" but have recieved nothing else since then. Ive been back in to check email address is ok - which it is!!

Have people actually recieved an email to their own email address stating the application was being dealt with or do you just wait until you get an email telling you, you are on to stage 2.?

No. 2
11th Dec 2002, 17:12
FunnyOnion,

When did you state on the form the earliest that you would be available for training? If you put the summer, for example, then you may not get a response immediately, as they're (probably) concentrating on those applicants who can make the early training dates i.e. February.

James

aerfungus
12th Dec 2002, 00:36
FunnyOnion
Im in the same boat as you.Sent my application off last Monday and havent heard a thing.
I said I was available form mid January.
I have got quite far in previous cadet applications so I would hope that I would be able to pass this first stage at least!
The problem with email is we cant blam the Irish postal system for this dealy!lol
Lets just hope we hear some good news soon!
Aerfungus

poorstudent22
12th Dec 2002, 12:39
mrsurrey,
i too am a university finalist with fours years student loans behind me (as my name would suggest) however i would suggest that £140 is well worth paying for an opportunity like this. At the end of the day its a small fee in comparison to the 60,000 you will probably have to borrow if successful! Frankly I will be coughing up the money if i have to beg borrow or steal!!
Good luck.

I dont think the dates you are available determines the promptness of reply. I applied on the wednesday after it went live and said i would be available from august. Received my stage 2 invitation on monday.

FunnyOnion
12th Dec 2002, 13:22
No2,

On the form i said i was available from January onwards and i do think i fit not only their minumum criteria but all th eother bits and pieces I have.


Aerfungus,

Im glad to hear someone else in the same boat - or should I say plane!!!. Like yourself i was eager enough to get it in early and because i have little commitments here I said I was available from January.

It would have been nice even to have got an automatic message from their website to say that it had arrived - I did get the "Your application has been sent" but with all those people who said they had errors, I wouldn't want to rely just on the say so of some computer chip.

Let me know when you do get a reply and when you are going - we can't blame the postal service but maybe eircom internet connections instead.

Take care and good luck - Id like to try and see you book an aer arran flight from Dublin - Cork - Southampton at the moment - THEYRE CHOKKA BLOCK.

FunnyOnion

Master Yoda
12th Dec 2002, 14:08
I got the nod, but I would like to hear if anyone got a No Thanks, but Goodluck for the future.

Are ALL applicants being invited for stage 2 regardless if you're compatible or not????

Any rejectees please give us a shout...

tonyblair
12th Dec 2002, 15:29
Master Yoda - look on page one of this thread :(

jonnys
13th Dec 2002, 12:44
I got a reply from CTC on the 8th saying I'm through to the next stage (2). For the record, I'm 20, have 70 hours experience (including some in the UAS), have had work experience with BA, Air 2k, and some aero engineering companies. Also have good academic record and am currently at uni.

Yep, £140+vat is expensive, and only a really small percentage will get through, but hell, isn't it worth taking the risk?? New Zealand, full training and a RHS on a 737/A320...I'm taking the chance...it doesn't get much better than that!!

Good luck to all you guys still in:D

Perfect PFL
13th Dec 2002, 14:14
I've not been on pprune for a long time (something to do with working now, rather than being a student I guess).

I heard about this scheme late, but applied anyway as it sounded good. I quickly got the email with the additional questions and filled that in and sent it back. Not heard anything back from that yet.

I am mid 20's, have a degree, ex UAS, PPL, well over 100hrs, work in the aviation industry.

Master Yoda
13th Dec 2002, 15:44
Nah really Mr Blair!

After that 1 post I meant.

1 rection in 10,000 applications is expected.

Malgus (can I say that word here??) will test u regardless of your application form.

Just checking....