Using G reg a/c for EASA licence

[Straighten Up]

Can anyone confirm (with reference) if dual instruction towards an EASA ppl can be done on a G-reg aircraft in EASA airspace. Assuming the FI holds both easa and caa licences and medical.

What about student solos if student only has easa medical.

In a similar vein can an EASA renewal/ reval/lpc be done on a G-reg. Here my concern is that if successful it should be logged as pic but pilot may not be entitled to act as pic on g-reg so how could/should it be logged?

Many thanks

[Whopity]

Lets start at the beginning. To teach on a G Reg aircraft the FI must have a UK licence, already stated. To teach for an EASA licence the course must be conducted at an EASA ATO or DTO. The question then is where is the ATO located, unlikely to be a DTO in the UK, but could be an ATO. Don't see that the airspace has any relevance.
Student would need a UK medical to fly G Reg aircraft unless Annex 1.(Art 150)

EASA prof check can be conducted on a G Reg if the Examiner has both UK and EASA qualifications, candidate can only log Dual if they do not hold a UK licence unless Annex 1.

[Straighten Up]

Thanks Whopity. Roughly as I expected. This is helpful to have spelt out.

[Straighten Up]

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EASA prof check can be conducted on a G Reg if the Examiner has both UK and EASA qualifications, candidate can only log Dual if they do not hold a UK licence unless Annex 1.

sorry just to clarify on this part. Examiner would need UK examiner privileges to do an easa renewal on a UK aircraft (in europe)? Or would a uk licence (entitled to act as pic) be sufficient. ?

[Whopity]

I agree with you, The relevant privileges for the licence i.e Examiner must match state of licence issue of candidate and Examiner's licence must match State of Registration of aircraft. Location is not relevant except for some IR initials.Could be two seperate licences.

[Balearic Helicopters]

Just to add to the complexity ..

A G reg aircraft cannot be used in EASA if paid for - commercial consideration, so becomes a commercial operation (not to be confused with CAT).

A UK examiner, holding both EASA and UK privileges, cannot examine a UK pilot in EASA in a EASA aircraft without approval from the EU state (airspace) where the flight takes place (according to the UK CAA).

Doesn't directly answer your question, but shows what a mess it is...

[BizJetJock]

A UK examiner, holding both EASA and UK privileges, cannot examine a UK pilot in EASA in a EASA aircraft without approval from the EU state (airspace) where the flight takes place (according to the UK CAA).
Sadly once again the CAA are giving incorrect advice.
Examiner holding an EASA licence doing something in an EASA aircraft in EASA airspace - no permission required from the EASA state. They are operating within the privileges of their licence, and there is no issue with the aircraft being used as long as all the normal NCO/NCC requirements are being followed as if it were an EASA training or checking flight being conducted.
If the aircraft is UK registered, (and UK operated) then the examiner has no need for an EASA licence in EASA airspace, but in principle needs permission from the state for the flight. However many states give an exemption for training even when paid for. This has to be checked on a state by state basis. I'm guessing from BH's location that Spain requires it, but Germany, Belgium and Denmark don't. Not checked any others!

[Balearic Helicopters]

Couldn't agree more,

The Spanish haven't been involved and don't really care, but as with most aviation authoritiesthese days tryingto get anything officially from them is like blood from a stone.

It's the UK CAA that stopped the flight exams. Their position is that, although you are an EASA examiner, in an EASA aircraft, in EASA airspace (and also current on all UK licence, medical etc) by signing a UK licence you are flying under your UK privileges not EASA - hence the required permission.....