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binzer
17th Dec 2023, 14:00
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?

ave
17th Dec 2023, 20:57
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?
did you check the avherald?

magyar_flyer
17th Dec 2023, 21:04
It was a taxi incident. They got stuck in the very muddy grass as there has been lots of precipitations lately. The recovery was also hampered for the same reasons.

Pearly White
18th Dec 2023, 06:44
Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/geneva-airport-suspends-operations-after-private-jet-overshoots-runway

atakacs
18th Dec 2023, 07:11
Aeritime is suggesting it was a runway overshoot: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/geneva-airport-suspends-operations-after-private-jet-overshoots-runway
Nope - just botched their taxi :/

binzer
18th Dec 2023, 07:26
Nope - just botched their taxi :/


Just seems weird nothing about it has been mentioned, normally someone has put up the whole days metars, who we can blame and what we can learn from it… And now the conspiracy theory, there’s more to it and it’s being blocked on here by those in power 😀

DaveReidUK
18th Dec 2023, 07:58
Unidentified Beech 400 OK-PPP taxying from the north apron to the south one.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x768/ok_ppp_at_gva_833a905e877143fb85ca038f428ae841de34f5f6.jpg

DaveReidUK
18th Dec 2023, 09:26
And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023 (https://www.gva.ch/en/Site/Geneve-Aeroport/News/News/Geneve-Aeroport-suspend-ses-vols-13-12)

OvertHawk
18th Dec 2023, 10:09
And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023 (https://www.gva.ch/en/Site/Geneve-Aeroport/News/News/Geneve-Aeroport-suspend-ses-vols-13-12)

Looks like a very professional job indeed! :ok:

I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.

I'd have expected this to be outsourced to a specialist contractor.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's great that they have it and use it to such good effect - it's just that i'm surprised.

Sorry for thread drift.

Less Hair
18th Dec 2023, 10:24
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/348796

TURIN
18th Dec 2023, 11:12
Usually if there’s a sniff of anything to do with aviation this site is inundated with information, right or wrong.
I've not heard a thing about lasts weeks excursion, read about it in the newspapers, friends have mentioned it, but nothing here.

Have I missed the thread?
You should've posted this last week.

Joe_K
18th Dec 2023, 12:44
I'm surprised that the airport fire service appear to have carried out this recovery themselves using their own equipment!

Is it normal for an airport fire service to hold this level of equipment and speciality? Not only is the kit very expensive to purchase and maintain but the training for the crews is significant.

Geneva ARFF is public sector. Without going down the rabbit hole of Swiss local politics, well funded and well staffed emergency services seem to be popular with voters over there... The flipside is that Geneva ARFF may be tasked to respond to incidents all over the canton of Geneva if deemed necessary, not just the airport itself.

OvertHawk
18th Dec 2023, 15:13
Thanks Joe!

That makes a bit more sense. Seemed like a significant cost and training burden just for a normal AFFRS.

Cheers!
OH

netstruggler
18th Dec 2023, 15:38
And a nicely-shot video of the recovery operation on GVA's website: Incident sortie de piste 13 décembre 2023 (https://www.gva.ch/en/Site/Geneve-Aeroport/News/News/Geneve-Aeroport-suspend-ses-vols-13-12)

Nice. Though they seemed to skip the bit where they actually pulled it off the grass.