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chopper2004
4th Dec 2023, 14:51
https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug=1207319-south-korea-selects-the-embraer-c-390-millennium

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NutLoose
4th Dec 2023, 16:15
I wonder if Lockheed are starting to get concerned over the orders this is picking up at the expense of what probably would have been Herc orders.

I wonder if Lockheed ever did a study at re-engining the Herc with a pair or four turbofans?

ASRAAMTOO
4th Dec 2023, 16:23
I wonder if Lockheed are starting to get concerned over the orders this is picking up at the expense of what probably would have been Herc orders.

I wonder if Lockheed ever did a study at re-engining the Herc with a pair or four turbofans?

Would there be any point, its got a straight wing so probably could not go much faster and at the speed it flys turboprops are likely to be way more efficient. Updating engines to more modern turboprop or some type of composite prop might be an option?

kenparry
4th Dec 2023, 16:29
Updating engines - just what they did on the C-130J!!

GlobalNav
4th Dec 2023, 19:06
https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug=1207319-south-korea-selects-the-embraer-c-390-millennium

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Good for Embraer, but why choose a jet transport for a country as small as S Korea and no distant military interests?
Seems like the C-130 is not only adequate, but perfect there.

wondering
4th Dec 2023, 19:52
I reckon the Herc's days are numbered. Eventually every airframe reaches the end of its life cycle.

Lonewolf_50
4th Dec 2023, 23:20
For wondering: Just got off the phone. The B-52 called, and would like to have a word. :p
So too did the Huey and the S-61 ...

NutLoose
5th Dec 2023, 00:11
For wondering: Just got off the phone. The B-52 called, and would like to have a word. :p
So too did the Huey and the S-61 ...

Hueys are seeing the end of their cycle with Grey Wolf taking over some of their roles.

West Coast
5th Dec 2023, 00:34
Hueys are seeing the end of their cycle with Grey Wolf taking over some of their roles.

My turn…

The USMC called and would love to chat about the super Hueys and all the life time left in those airframes. Do believe Bell is still producing varying Huey iterations still.

Lonewolf_50
5th Dec 2023, 00:40
Shameless plug for the Venom:
https://www.bellflight.com/products/bell-uh-1y
:)https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x418/feature_3_a0c9f227e01f1a049e7e90814c3a196656bc096b.jpgForegr ound is Viper, AH-1Z, wingman is Venom, UH-1Y.
Each powered by 2 T-700 engines and having a bearingless rotor system, and you'll note the four bladed tail rotor.
(Finally learned something from Blackhawk, they did!) :}

Back on topic, I think the 390 is a good looking bird.

melmothtw
5th Dec 2023, 08:33
Good for Embraer, but why choose a jet transport for a country as small as S Korea and no distant military interests?
Seems like the C-130 is not only adequate, but perfect there.

South Korea contributes to international operations all over the world (the RoKAF operates the A330 MRTT for this reason), most recently helping with the evacuation from Kabul. Over recent years, the RoKAF C-130s have operated in Afghanistan, Angola, East Timor, Nepal, the Philippines, and Indonesia, and from 2004 to 2008 the RoK Army was deployed in Iraq. Plenty of need for the KC-390.

Davef68
5th Dec 2023, 09:02
The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe

rattman
5th Dec 2023, 11:08
The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe


size wise its between C-130 and A-400

C-130 - 20 tons
C-390 - 26 tons
A-400 37 tons

Lonewolf_50
5th Dec 2023, 23:20
The KC-390 is a bigger aircraft than it looks - those huge cockpit windows give the impression of a smaller airframe My takeaway from that post is ... size matters! :}

fdr
7th Dec 2023, 06:59
size wise its between C-130 and A-400

C-130 - 20 tons
C-390 - 26 tons
A-400 37 tons


And the Mitsubishi C-2, same PLD as the A400M Atlas, but 60KTAS faster and double the range with that payload. And it is made by people who make fine items.

Asturias56
7th Dec 2023, 09:52
but the Japanese are reluctant to ship military goods - not a problem with the Brazilians