Aircircuses wants to raise fees

[AnotherFSO]

"Airlines flying in Australia may soon pay more for air traffic control services, which could result in a rise to already inflated airfares.

"Airservices Australia – the government-owned body that oversees air navigation in Australia – has proposed to the competition watchdog an increase in its fees for the first time since 2015. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission [ACCC] will seek industry consultation until January 19 before making a determination.

"If the suggested price increase is implemented, international and domestic airlines will pay an average of 19 per cent more for navigation and aviation firefighting services across four rises between mid-2024 and 2026.

"Airservices has not increased fees since a 0.4 per cent rise in 2015. It dropped its fees by 2 per cent in 2019 after a restructure to “rebalance revenue growth driven by international airline operations over 2018”, a spokesperson said."

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/airfare-pressure-watchdog-to-consider-rise-in-air-traffic-control-fees-20231130-p5eo39.html

[Warragul]

Interesting snippet from this article -

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/airfare-pressure-watchdog-to-consider-rise-in-air-traffic-control-fees-20231130-p5eo39.html

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/659x124/screenshot_2023_11_30_201338_587dc1139f9d21897f5ceb95fd058ae 2fbad59b3.png
An airline to avoid with that config, even though it is certified with that number.

[havick]

Pay more for less or no service, makes sense

[Lead Balloon]

But what happens when my bundle of Airservices rights includes, for example, a SFIS on arrival at and departure from Ballina, when SFIS is NOTAMd unavailable? I suppose the answer is that Airservices isn't actually obliged to provide any services (other than to notify everyone a service is not available) especially if there's no charge for them. Next thing we know the telcos will NOTAM the 000 service unavailable.

[Capn Bloggs]

An airline to avoid with that config, even though it is certified with that number.
Try less than 500 actually fitted (from Seatguru (https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Singapore_Air/Singapore_Airlines_Airbus_A380-800_E.php)):

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/404x308/sia_a380_seat_map_5d5a0c9351c7db39d4c6c22ce724c4684068503a.j pg

[sunnySA]

Interesting snippet from this article -

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/659x124/screenshot_2023_11_30_201338_587dc1139f9d21897f5ceb95fd058ae 2fbad59b3.png


According to AsA's Flight Costing Form Flight Costings (https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/charging/main/flight/costing/inetquery.jsp)
Qantas A380 (VH-OQG) Singapore to Sydney, total AsA charges are $8524. Seating is 14F, 64B, 35P and 371E, total 484.
100% occupancy is $17.61 per seat, assuming 80% occupancy then $22.02 per seat.

Qantas B789 (VH-ZNL) Singapore to Sydney, total AsA charges are $5105. Seating is 42B, 28P and 166E, total 238.
100% occupancy is $29.66 per seat, assuming 80% occupancy then $37.03 per seat.

[neville_nobody]

Out of interest what do they charge the freighters? UPS, FedEx, Oz Post are the same size aircraft.

[KRviator]

Out of interest what do they charge the freighters? UPS, FedEx, Oz Post are the same size aircraft.Using Quaint-Arse's A330 P2F VH-EBF as a guide, WSSS-YSSY would be $4,536.97 including GST. If you plug in -EBA instead of -EBF, there's no difference in pricing, still $4,536.

[missy]

AsA charges by MTOW, there is a Terminal Navigation charge, a ARFF charge, Enroute charge, a MET charge (collected by AsA for BoM) and GST.
I think SMH Business was trying to illustrate the $$ per passenger. A330, empty, full, passenger or freighter, it's all the same.

[missy]

Qantas A380 (VH-OQG) Singapore to Sydney, total AsA charges are $8524. Seating is 14F, 64B, 35P and 371E, total 484.
100% occupancy is $17.61 per seat, assuming 80% occupancy then $22.02 per seat.

Qantas B789 (VH-ZNL) Singapore to Sydney, total AsA charges are $5105. Seating is 42B, 28P and 166E, total 238.
100% occupancy is $29.66 per seat, assuming 80% occupancy then $37.03 per seat.
Yep, it would be an interesting Excel spreadsheet that divvies up the costs across multiple ANSPs depending on the routes flown.