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DogTailRed2
29th Oct 2023, 10:33
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Okay, so the Fireflash was fictitious but I'm curious, was there ever any real world aircraft designs that had or considered passenger seating within the wings?

Chairborne 09.00hrs
29th Oct 2023, 11:13
I think one of the Dornier flying boats of the 1930s did.

HOVIS
29th Oct 2023, 11:16
Didn't Boeing's Blended Wing concept have pax in the wings?

Self loading bear
29th Oct 2023, 12:43
US experimental glider XCG-16

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/814x256/97acf54d_75bf_4781_a9af_c6d1cab85123_ad5e16c224c18bd9cb3550f cc02807534baf1aa0.jpeg

Self loading bear
29th Oct 2023, 12:47
Junkers G-38

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Sue Vêtements
29th Oct 2023, 14:08
Damn! Finally a question I could have answered - if you hadn't got there first :(

I was just reading about the G-38 last week

So I'll go with . . . the second G-38 (D-2500)



but wait, what about that American twin with pusher engines and a gun position built into the froint of the nacelle? Not exactly passengers obviously, but then again not not passengers either

treadigraph
29th Oct 2023, 14:40
what about that American twin with pusher engines and a gun position built into the froint of the nacelle?

Bell Airacuda.

WHBM
29th Oct 2023, 15:02
Fireflash always reminded me a bit of the somewhat contemporary (with the programme) Super VC-10.

brakedwell
29th Oct 2023, 16:13
I would hate to think of the nose down pressure when full powere was applied'

DogTailRed2
29th Oct 2023, 17:06
Fireflash always reminded me a bit of the somewhat contemporary (with the programme) Super VC-10.
I guess model makers just cannot overcome real world influences when designing sci-fi vehicles. Thunderbird 2 has wings that look suspiciously conventional.

bingofuel
29th Oct 2023, 17:06
If I remember correctly, the flight deck was in the vertical stabiliser so they would see the pitch down quite well…………..

bobward
29th Oct 2023, 17:22
Wasn't the original Fireflash a beam rider air-to-air missile tested on the Swift F7?

WHBM
29th Oct 2023, 18:16
I guess model makers just cannot overcome real world influences when designing sci-fi vehicles. Thunderbird 2 has wings that look suspiciously conventional.
... and an unconventional 'bridge' tailplane taken straight from the De Havilland Sea Vixen of the era :)

Sleeve Wing
30th Oct 2023, 10:25
Bobward.

Yep, Fairey Fireflash AAM. 1956. Fitted Swift and Hunter.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x198/supermarine_swift_with_fireflash_missiles_1956_638dd05d08493 a35623c2b418b6953b5fda125ae.jpg
Thank you. ©Wikipedia.

FlightlessParrot
30th Oct 2023, 12:12
I would hate to think of the nose down pressure when full powere was applied'
You would think they would have learned from the Tarrant Tabor.

BEagle
30th Oct 2023, 17:21
The Fireflash was flown on trails Meteor NF11 and the No 1 Guided Weapons Development Squadron Swift F7s at RAF Valley. The Hunter-derived P1109B was used for Firestreak missile tests, not for Fireflash tests.