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ManUtd1999
25th Sep 2023, 17:04
Apart from NATS, are there any ANSPs / airports in the UK who recruit trainee ATCOs? I have seen the Highland & Islands Airports advertise from time-to-time, but that's about it...

If they don't recruit trainees, where do the smaller airports recruit from? There can't be that many experienced controllers wanting to move around?

Cheers in advance :ok:

chevvron
25th Sep 2023, 19:18
Global ATC at Gloucester operate an ATC college, but unless you can get sponsored you have to pay for the training and there's no guarantee of a job when you finish the course(s).

stupotk
25th Sep 2023, 19:30
As chevvron has said, your best bet is to get sponsored by a unit. To do so - you’ll most likely need to look for a job as an Assistant at an airport, after a period of time they may pay for your training to become a controller.

Rwy1234
26th Sep 2023, 13:04
you’ll most likely need to look for a job as an Assistant at an airport, after a period of time they may pay for your training to become a controller.

IMHO the best route in. By the time they start day 1 at college they already have a shed load of experience. And for a unit to sponsor their staff, they must have a fairly high degree of confidence that it will be a successful outcome.

ManUtd1999
28th Sep 2023, 21:46
Thanks for info :)

Kamsa12
27th Oct 2023, 18:02
Eurocontrol in Maastricht takes UK applicants still, I believe.

Ashers99
31st Oct 2023, 10:23
IMHO the best route in. By the time they start day 1 at college they already have a shed load of experience. And for a unit to sponsor their staff, they must have a fairly high degree of confidence that it will be a successful outcome.

I completely agree with this. I'm currently an ATSA and the experience has been invaluable. I'm going to NATS now but the unit I'm at do train up their ATSAs to become ATCOs so it's a great place to start. There are quite a few ATSA jobs being advertised at the moment I believe, I'd look in to it

chevvron
31st Oct 2023, 16:35
Going back a few years admittedly but back in the late '60s, I joined NATCS (as it was called then) as an Air Traffic Control Assistant, the educational requirement beng a minimum of 4 GCE (NOT GCSE) 'O' levels. To join direct as an ATCO Cadet required at least 2 'A' levels in addition to another 3 'O' levels (I actually got 6 'O' levels and one 'A' level when I left school) but I was happy to start at the bottom. I spent two and a half years as an assistant before passing the selection for ATCO Cadet but in that time I accrued a vast amount of knowledge and experience which all went towards me passing the 3 year course which involved achieving all ratings (in present terms ADV, ADI, APP, APS, ACP, ACS) and training at places as far apart as Bournemouth (the College of Air Traffic Control) and the Shetland Islands.
I saw many ATCAs who got impatient at the apparent slowness of gaining this experience and who left after as little as 3 months to pursue other professions - their loss; if you stuck at it the rewards were fantastic.

kcockayne
31st Oct 2023, 19:01
Going back a few years admittedly but back in the late '60s, I joined NATCS (as it was called then) as an Air Traffic Control Assistant, the educational requirement beng a minimum of 4 GCE (NOT GCSE) 'O' levels. To join direct as an ATCO Cadet required at least 2 'A' levels in addition to another 3 'O' levels (I actually got 6 'O' levels and one 'A' level when I left school) but I was happy to start at the bottom. I spent two and a half years as an assistant before passing the selection for ATCO Cadet but in that time I accrued a vast amount of knowledge and experience which all went towards me passing the 3 year course which involved achieving all ratings (in present terms ADV, ADI, APP, APS, ACP, ACS) and training at places as far apart as Bournemouth (the College of Air Traffic Control) and the Shetland Islands.
I saw many ATCAs who got impatient at the apparent slowness of gaining this experience and who left after as little as 3 months to pursue other professions - their loss; if you stuck at it the rewards were fantastic.
Entirely agree with you, chevvron. Those who stuck at it, & particularly those who played for London Airways football team, never looked back !

NS171
15th Nov 2023, 13:30
I completely agree with this. I'm currently an ATSA and the experience has been invaluable. I'm going to NATS now but the unit I'm at do train up their ATSAs to become ATCOs so it's a great place to start. There are quite a few ATSA jobs being advertised at the moment I believe, I'd look in to it

Do you know where these jobs are usually advertised?

letitrun
16th Nov 2023, 20:49
Newcastle are looking for ATSA's, advertised on their website

Ashers99
17th Nov 2023, 15:29
Do you know where these jobs are usually advertised?


keep an eye out on job websites like Glassdoor and Indeed - you can sign up for alerts. Don't know where you're based but might be worth checking the Biggin Hill website over the next week or two....

rodan
17th Nov 2023, 15:35
Newcastle are looking for ATSA's, advertised on their website

As are Blackpool

NS171
19th Nov 2023, 17:02
Thank you for your responses, I'm based in the central belt so I'll set up some alerts and hopefully there will be an opportunity up this way, or I could look into relocating. I've applied to the RAF as well although I realise that it's not straightforward to transition into civil air traffic control after you leave.

Ashers99
9th Dec 2023, 07:02
Thank you for your responses, I'm based in the central belt so I'll set up some alerts and hopefully there will be an opportunity up this way, or I could look into relocating. I've applied to the RAF as well although I realise that it's not straightforward to transition into civil air traffic control after you leave.


Hi, I know this isn't near where you're based but just wanted to let you know that Biggin Hill are currently recruiting ATSAs. It's a cool place to work - mostly biz jets now but still lots of GA and of course Spitfires! Movement in the department is quite fluid at the moment - the last 4 ATSAs have gone on controller courses within a year of starting. Obviously it's not guaranteed that you'd get sent on a course but it's certainly a great place to start. If you're really serious about become a controller I'd say it's definitely worth an application and a potential move to the south!

chevvron
9th Dec 2023, 08:11
I've applied to the RAF as well although I realise that it's not straightforward to transition into civil air traffic control after you leave.
Bear in mind you'll be an RAF Officer first and an ATCO second and somebody in authority might suddenly decide you're needed elsewhere in the RAF so you could be switched to something completely dfferent like being a supplier.

Glamdring
4th Jan 2024, 19:06
ANS Occasionally recruit trainees...

https://ans-atc.com/careers/

ManUtd1999
4th Jan 2024, 21:28
ANS Occasionally recruit trainees...
They did pre-Covid, but I haven't seen them advertise for a long time....