HK Express Second Officer Recruitment [Archive]

KKA320

16th Aug 2023, 09:24

Anyone is interested?
Does anyone have any clue on the PAY SCALE for UO 2nd officer?
Not much information can be found online.

Qualifications:
- HKCAD CPL Holder issued under HKCAD Approved Integrated Course
- Valid HK Permanent ID Holder

I guess more local airlines (HX, UO.....) may start preparing to accept graduates from HKIAA cadet pilot program, any thoughts?

Many Thanks!

hnc

28th Aug 2023, 05:12

hello, I applied about a week ago

KKA320

29th Aug 2023, 08:39

Great to hear that and wish you good luck!

Do you have any ideas on its remuneration package?
Tried to contact HKE, Flygosh and do some research online but in vain....

Just want to understand it for reference.
Many Thanks!

buggaluggs

30th Aug 2023, 04:23

“ Pay scale “ …… I think this might be one of those ‘ if you have to ask you can’t afford it! ‘ type deals! ;-)

Anyone is interested?
Does anyone have any clue on the PAY SCALE for UO 2nd officer?
Not much information can be found online.

Qualifications:
- HKCAD CPL Holder issued under HKCAD Approved Integrated Course
- Valid HK Permanent ID Holder

I guess more local airlines (HX, UO.....) may start preparing to accept graduates from HKIAA cadet pilot program, any thoughts?

Many Thanks!

TinFoilhat2

30th Aug 2023, 08:22

How can you be an SO on an A320?

Seriously nobody should sign up for this, this is why T&C’s are in the toilet. You would be flying as an FO getting SO pay.

There will only be 2 pilots on board, a captain and an FO.

I suppose you will be buying your type rating as well.

smogluver

30th Aug 2023, 10:10

That is very good advice

KKA320

4th Sep 2023, 03:06

It did exist when Cathay dragon (KA) was still there.
Once you graduated from KA cadet program you would be SO but trained for FO's job tasks (including takeoff and landing).
Your rank was still SO but getting FO pay.

It might or might not be the case for HKE but I just wanna to ask and know about it.
Moreover, no one needs to buy his/her type rating for joining any CPL250 posts in Hong Kong.
You might be confused with some other SE Asian airlines.

How can you be an SO on an A320?

Seriously nobody should sign up for this, this is why T&C’s are in the toilet. You would be flying as an FO getting SO pay.

There will only be 2 pilots on board, a captain and an FO.

I suppose you will be buying your type rating as well.

controlledrest

11th Sep 2023, 06:29

The CX SOs whom have asked to transfer to HKE are doing it to log some front seat time. Once they have a chunk they are out of here. Another dumb idea from CX which wont work as planned.

Zi Peng

11th Sep 2023, 10:40

The CX SOs whom have asked to transfer to HKE are doing it to log some front seat time. Once they have a chunk they are out of here. Another dumb idea from CX which wont work as planned.

Yep, lots of senior FOs with good passports. Upgrade time went down to 5 years on the big boys fleet. 500 hrs and they are gone.

hnc

12th Sep 2023, 15:57

Anyone has any updates from UO?

kalimera

15th Sep 2023, 19:29

Anyone has any updates from UO?
hey I applied few days ago

hnc

19th Sep 2023, 08:56

I applied a month ago and the status is still "application acknowledged".

kalimera

28th Sep 2023, 19:54

I applied a month ago and the status is still "application acknowledged".
same here...Do you know anyone applied and got a response?

hnc

1st Oct 2023, 18:33

same here...Do you know anyone applied and got a response?

not really. Everyone I know with a CPL got in CX cadet and need to do another 50+ week training.

kalimera

1st Oct 2023, 18:39

not really. Everyone I know with a CPL got in CX cadet and need to do another 50+ week training.

really? I thought CPL holder could skip those initial training
there’s a guy I know didn’t do the training from 0

ccccchanjohnny

5th Oct 2023, 21:18

really? I thought CPL holder could skip those initial training
there’s a guy I know didn’t do the training from 0
Hi Kalimera may I know more about the details? (how do I go about requesting reduction in training hours ) I am looking to apply the cadet pilot programme with a CPL as well !
Cheers

iBlueGoose

14th Oct 2023, 04:06

Anyone have any updates or received a response from UO?

SuzieWong

16th Oct 2023, 08:12

magenta magnet

16th Oct 2023, 16:24

As regular SLF, it’s getting frickin scary who is up front these days.
How many have hand flown an aircraft in IMC on limited panel?? Probably even more scary, how many have hand flown an aircraft (not simulator) full stop?!!

So Suzie, in your career have you flown "limited panel in IMC during an approach?" this I've got to hear....

azhkman

17th Oct 2023, 09:39

SIDS N STARS

19th Oct 2023, 05:47

As regular SLF, it’s getting frickin scary who is up front these days.
How many have hand flown an aircraft in IMC on limited panel?? Probably even more scary, how many have hand flown an aircraft (not simulator) full stop?!!

How scared are you if you're flying with them regularly?
How do you know who is up the front?
How do you know their experience, qualifications, or if/when, they have flown limited panel?
Are you as equally concerned about the abilities of the Cabin Crew? Engineers?

Sounds to me like someone's a bit bitter about something...

controlledrest

24th Oct 2023, 11:34

Recruitment demand has been slightly reduced, as they have written an aircraft off from a heavy landing. It is parked by HAECO without engines. Spar bent. Never to fly again.

This on top of the 2 CX A330s with broken gear due heavy landing and the 2 CX A321 with written off landing gear due heavy landing and the A321 with a tail strike.

This is what happens when you take pilots with no real experience, push them through a quick course on the cheapest sims (crap visuals) one can get away with then put them out in the real world.

Where is CAD in all of this?

SIDS N STARS

24th Oct 2023, 14:38

The CAD is controlled by CX... If the CAD is continually punishing a CX group airline, it shows lack of respect on the part of CX and a lack of supervision or control on the part of the CAD.

No need for the CAD anymore, CAAC takes over and CX becomes another mainland carrier.

Alternatively, off the record, from one former HFO to another, please be careful of this and that.. and everyone remains status quo..

Sam Ting Wong

25th Oct 2023, 06:46

If CX would control CAD we would not have 4 pilots on long haul flights. Complete BS, as is the fairy tail about the damaged CX 330's

KKA320

25th Oct 2023, 07:43

Just curious, in CX, the SO can only fly above 20k feet I think, and mostly does fuel checks. What would the SO do at HK Express?
Also, the local bus firms are hiring for up to 31k / month. Would UO SO make that level?

As I know SO at short haul flights airlines (e.g. UO and HX) will sit at the right seat directly and conducting take-off and landing.
Solid flying experience will be gained but you should expect a very packed roster with many turnaround flights.

Not sure for the pay of UO SO, may be something around 30-40k.
Any thoughts?

controlledrest

26th Oct 2023, 22:55

[QUOTE=Sam Ting Wong;11527151 Complete BS, as is the fairy tail about the damaged CX 330's[/QUOTE]

Are you on the Bus? Did you see the spin from the fleet office that some 330s LG was damaged by runway undulations? If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale.

Two 330s suffered damage to their gear from heavy landings on training flights. One of these involved a management pilot who is out of her depth in the Fleet Office.

boocs

27th Oct 2023, 04:02

So just to be clear……

KA who were flying their 330’s into this particular airport with a slight down slope on one runway for years and years and years without incident, but a CX manager blames the same slope and runway for their heavy landing????

Sounds legit. It’s the runway’s fault not his/hers.

b.

pandaexpress

26th Nov 2023, 18:42

Do SOs sit next to the captain in during flight? If so, why would they hire SO instead of FO? Where would the FO sit during flight?

What is the current wait time to promote from SO to FO?