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bohpilot
14th Aug 2023, 12:19
Hi

If a candidate has undergone a type rating course, does the 8 week limit for the temporary license SRG1100 start from the date of the Skills Test or the completion of the base training.

Thanks

Whopity
14th Aug 2023, 12:46
From the date of issue of the SRG1100

bohpilot
14th Aug 2023, 12:49
From the date of issue of the SRG1100
Yes I know that, but does the SRG1100 HAVE to be issued after the Skills Test, if not then can it be at the Base Training date which may be some days after the skills test.

Whopity
14th Aug 2023, 12:55
It can only be issued by the Examiner on successfully meeting all of the lssue criteria therefore after the AoC is completed.

bohpilot
14th Aug 2023, 13:41
I have found the info buried on the UK CAA website, their date is after the base training not the skills test.

https://www.caa.co.uk/commercial-industry/pilot-licences/applications/documentation/temporary-certificate-of-part-fcl-licence-privileges-for-ratings-or-certificates/

Whopity
14th Aug 2023, 13:49
And what if the candidate fails the skill test? This is what the CAA website says:
Part-FCL privileges can be exercised by licence or certificate holders for up to 8 weeks from the date of successful completion of examination(s), while they are awaiting post-test endorsement of the licence or certificate.

TCs may be valid, for a maximum period of 8 weeks, from the date of successful completion of the Part-FCL requirements for the issue of the rating or certificate,
The AoC is one of those requirements and should not be completed until all other requirements for rating issue have been met.

Professor Plum
14th Aug 2023, 15:19
Bohpilot;

As you say, itís on completion of base training where applicable.

Whopity
14th Aug 2023, 17:23
Written on the front of the SRG1100:
Instructions to Examiner
The examiner is responsible for ensuring the test/check or assessment of competence has been passed in accordance with the requirements of Part FCL and relevant guidance documents. Only the examiner conducting the test, check or assessment of competence may sign this Temporary Certificate after verifying the applicant has fulfilled all the applicable requirements and the application is accompanied by a valid completion certificate from the relevant Approved Training Organisation (as required). Any Temporary Certificate issued when the applicable requirements have not been fully met will be, immediately, provisionally suspended and the subsequent application may be rejected. The pilot must carry this signed original Temporary Certificate whenever exercising the privileges of this Temporary Certificate

Professor Plum
14th Aug 2023, 18:02
Yep. Section 3 completed by TRE after successful completion of base training. Valid 8 weeks from completion of base training.

ATOguy
6th Sep 2023, 22:23
And what if the candidate fails the skill test? This is what the CAA website says:



The AoC is one of those requirements and should not be completed until all other requirements for rating issue have been met.
The base training is invariably completed after the LST has been passed.
This is an example of a form designed by someone who has no idea of what it is for. They have recently revised it again to say that the examiner should sign it then the date should be filled in by the TRI completing the base training. However, many examiners quite reasonably balk at signing a form saying everything has been completed when it hasnít, and leaving the date blank. So we have a back and forth of sending the evidence of base training to the examiner before he will sign it. Also not helped by unofficial advice from the CAA that if the person conducting the base training is a TRE then they can sign it as licensing assume they have checked the LST paperwork before the base training. So they are signing that everything is completed but are not the authorised signatory according to the form.
if an ATO/operator did this it would be pulled up as a serious finding at audit. No double standards hereÖ