Mystery photo

[MARK9263]

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x679/img180_copy_5effdc91a61e54d0c325aee326f1e96fde228491.jpg
The slide is dated January 1985, clearly a non-UK location but what is throwing me is the British Airways BAC 1-11 inside! Help please

[MARK9263]

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x667/img179_187f85f16347f4ab86d3e62f0f636d8f97b851ed.jpg
Another mystery slide I've come across. Any ideas?

[aerolearner]

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x679/img180_copy_5effdc91a61e54d0c325aee326f1e96fde228491.jpg
The slide is dated January 1985, clearly a non-UK location but what is throwing me is the British Airways BAC 1-11 inside! Help please
For sure, it shows the hangar at Milano Linate
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1100044409-milan-italy-05-may-1975-airport-moving

Could it be 1975 instead of 1985?

[Stockportcounty]

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x679/img180_copy_5effdc91a61e54d0c325aee326f1e96fde228491.jpg
The slide is dated January 1985, clearly a non-UK location but what is throwing me is the British Airways BAC 1-11 inside! Help please

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1122x1682/81841614_2cbc_4872_a9be_aa8a5f6e5701_6ddd97243af6dcfd7819f64 128423783fd698aab.jpeg
Given the Grappa promo,, and looking at this piccy. I’d suggest Milan.

[treadigraph]

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x667/img179_187f85f16347f4ab86d3e62f0f636d8f97b851ed.jpg
Another mystery slide I've come across. Any ideas?
Looks like UK - German Navy Sea King had a landing accident near Yeovil in 1974, possibly that one?

[SWBKCB]

For sure, it shows the hangar at Milano Linate
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1100044409-milan-italy-05-may-1975-airport-moving

Could it be 1975 instead of 1985?

Isn't a BA 1-11 more likely to be in that scheme in '85 rather than '75?

[chevvron]

Isn't a BA 1-11 more likely to be in that scheme in '85 rather than '75?
Not '75 colour scheme.

[treadigraph]

Isn't a BA 1-11 more likely to be in that scheme in '85 rather than '75?

Reckon both equally likely, certainly saw Tridents in the BA scheme 74/75, in 85 I think the Landor scheme had just started appearing.

[aerolearner]

Disregard. It cannot be 1975. In addition to the 1-11 livery, the Fiat 242 van in the hangar is a later series, which appeared later than 1975.

[minuteman]

The Sea King accident is Ponthenri in 1989….took a bit of map sleuthing that did!

[MARK9263]

Brlliant! Thanks for the superb and speedy replies on both subjects.

[MARK9263]

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1325/img176_4941c9cae0121a5d13b6872148628e3e14795692.jpg
Can't find absolutely anything on line about this. I think it may be a Flamant? Slide dated 1971

[Haraka]

A pair of Bretagne fuselages.
See:

https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=163931

[MARK9263]

Thank you.

[FlightlessParrot]

Disregard. It cannot be 1975. In addition to the 1-11 livery, the Fiat 242 van in the hangar is a later series, which appeared later than 1975.

I have no opinion on the date, but the internet seems to think that the Fiat 242 was introduced in 1974; but there are perhaps minor dating details like bumpers or wing mirrors that are discernible in the original photo.

[DaveReidUK]

A pair of Bretagne fuselages.
See:

https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=163931

And a bit more history from here (https://s7a6a4393a0324a30.jimcontent.com/download/version/1617396793/module/7547512851/name/Grill%20Avia%20Amb%C3%A9rieu%20%20CALM.pdf):

Both Bretagnes (19 and 22) served with airlines (Air Maroc/Air Algérie) before being taken on by the Groupe Aérien de Liaison Ministériel and used to transport VIPs, including General de Gaulle.

Bought by the head of a construction company at Ambérieu en Bugey (Ain) and converted into a short-lived restaurant.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/929x643/grill_avia_amb_rieu_calm_0003_24f5f59f665b85483246532df434e6 0609c2c9b0.jpg

[MARK9263]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1282/_march_1999__1da0b61a2d55e7b1c9dac95b8b3d9bd165bea8e2.jpg
Slide is dated March 1999.

[DH106]

Looks like a DC-8 with CFM engines?

[treadigraph]

I'd say so, a -72, looks short for a 71/73.

Doing some thinking - Central/South America? Looked at places like La Paz and Mexico City on Google Earth but couldn't see anything obvious even going back with the history function.

[Liffy 1M]

It's possible that it's an earlier DC-8 with some sort of fake cowlings/nacelles - I know it doesn't look that way but I can't find any reports of DC-8-72s preserved in this way.

[chevvron]

Bloody good pilot though.

[DH106]

Pretty sure this is DC-81-51 XA-DOD stored in a compound on the north east side of Mexico City Licenciado Benito Juarez Airport.
The photographer's aircraft is on short final to R23L, (flying to the left - not to the right as I initially thought !).
The cowlings do look like large CFM ones, but this seems to be an illusion.

This Google Earth image from 2003:-

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1154x792/dc_8_xa_dod_5e8db96ca4e0da9f723fb9911232777dabf721d5.png

This DC-8 was moved from the compound circa 2006 to a spot on the southern boundary near the 23L threshold with other aircraft, but vanishes in late 2009, so presumably scrapped?

[DaveReidUK]

This DC-8 was moved from the compound circa 2006 to a spot on the southern boundary near the 23L threshold with other aircraft, but vanishes in late 2009, so presumably scrapped?

No, it survives (albeit completely engineless and with two wings pointing in different directions) at a Police/GN training centre off the Anillo Periferico, about 5 miles SSE of the airport.

GPS 19.3680 -99.0582

[DH106]

No, it survives (albeit completely engineless and with two wings pointing in different directions) at a Police/GN training centre off the Anillo Periferico, about 5 miles SSE of the airport.

GPS 19.3680 -99.0582

So it does :)
Thanks

[MARK9263]

You guys are absolutely astounding, great detective work..Thank you.

[treadigraph]

Great work DH106! See there's what looks like a G2 or G3 and several other types in the DC-8's spot now. Maintenance school?

[washoutt]

The one at the police center looks to be the long version, DC 8-63, while the previous one is the -62 (I think)

[DH106]

The one at the police center looks to be the long version, DC 8-63, while the previous one is the -62 (I think)

Only looks to be about 145'-150' long, so deffo not a DC-8-61/63 which are 187' long.

[DaveReidUK]

The one at the police center looks to be the long version, DC 8-63, while the previous one is the -62 (I think)

Neither looks like a stretched DC-8 (60 series) to me.

[dixi188]

The DC-8-62/72 is only 157.5 ft long.

[DaveReidUK]

The DC-8-62/72 is only 157.5 ft long.

True, but that's still around 7 feet longer than the regular DC-8.

I'm happy that it's DC-8-51 XA-DOD at both locations - the most recent GE view showing it in the compound near the airport is March 2005, and the first showing it at the Police training centre is December 2009 (with the wings removed, fitted sort-of by July 2010).