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Twomonthsoff
24th Jul 2023, 11:25
Hi All,

I’m due to be operating in PNG again for a while and would appreciate an update on RNP in PNG. Haven’t got access to the charts yet on Jepp. Was last there there a few years ago so I’m out of touch; are RNP approaches now available at most of the regular airports; are the charts LNAV/VNAV? I’m aware ADSB is now available across the country.
Many thanks for any input

Mumbai Merlin
24th Jul 2023, 19:13
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Mumbai Merlin
24th Jul 2023, 23:48
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Twomonthsoff
25th Jul 2023, 07:39
Hi Mumbai,

Thanks for the info; I should be ok as I hold a PNG ATPL. Further to my last, are RNP approaches operational in PNG?

Cheers

Duck Pilot
25th Jul 2023, 20:51
Most major airports now have RNAV approaches, with the exception of Goroka. There was a jointly funded project a few years ago that was used to develop new approaches and review the existing approaches.

Most of the old waypoints were also changed a few years ago to better align with the ICAO standards. The waypoints being duplicated over aerodromes have no resemblance to the aerodrome name below. Having said this, it shouldn’t take you to long to get familiar with the new waypoint names.

SIDs and STARs were also designed and published for AYPY a few years ago, however their start date was put on hold via NOTAM a day or so before they were to go live. Not sure if they are live now as it’s been a while since I’ve been in country.

If you have done the air law exam within the last 20 years, you won’t need to do it again as the ATPL is perpetual. The recurrency requirements will be covered during the licence/IR renewal by the flight examiner.

Most operators in PNG use the RNAV approaches these days.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Twomonthsoff
26th Jul 2023, 01:19
Most major airports now have RNAV approaches, with the exception of Goroka. There was a jointly funded project a few years ago that was used to develop new approaches and review the existing approaches.

Most of the old waypoints were also changed a few years ago to better align with the ICAO standards. The waypoints being duplicated over aerodromes have no resemblance to the aerodrome name below. Having said this, it shouldn’t take you to long to get familiar with the new waypoint names.

SIDs and STARs were also designed and published for AYPY a few years ago, however their start date was put on hold via NOTAM a day or so before they were to go live. Not sure if they are live now as it’s been a while since I’ve been in country.

If you have done the air law exam within the last 20 years, you won’t need to do it again as the ATPL is perpetual. The recurrency requirements will be covered during the licence/IR renewal by the flight examiner.

Most operators in PNG use the RNAV approaches these days.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Many thanks for your response; good to hear

geeup
8th Aug 2023, 22:16
Depends on which fleet or aircraft type you are coming in on that will dictate the types of approach.

To be honest not much has changed.

SIDs & STAR maybe finally used in POM next month

LostintheHighlands
12th Aug 2023, 00:48
Goroka approaches have been released. They are scheduled for October AIRIC cycle to become active. There is an RNAV Y appch which comes down to 6200' and 3nm from the field, missed is a climbing right hand turn back out. Also a SID plate with transition towars POM, Nadzab and back overhead to ESKEL.

Mumbai Merlin
12th Aug 2023, 21:52
The Goroka RNAV approach require RNP APCH capability and approval. Not many aircraft or operators have that approval.

catseye
13th Aug 2023, 10:50
Goroka approaches have been released. They are scheduled for October AIRIC cycle to become active. There is an RNAV Y appch which comes down to 6200' and 3nm from the field, missed is a climbing right hand turn back out. Also a SID plate with transition towars POM, Nadzab and back overhead to ESKEL.
Is the approach into the valley then a visual or runway aligned? Often thought you could get down quite low in the valley then a visual right or left onto the runway. The tall pines went a few years ago.

LostintheHighlands
14th Aug 2023, 05:45
Is the approach into the valley then a visual or runway aligned? Often thought you could get down quite low in the valley then a visual right or left onto the runway. The tall pines went a few years ago.

Techinically they aren't to a runway (RNAV Y and RNAV Z) but functionally they are straight in from abeam Mt. Michael. Apparently I cant post a link, but Niusky Website, AIP Supplement, SUP 4 of 2023 will get you there.

Mumbai Merlin
14th Aug 2023, 10:02
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Duck Pilot
16th Aug 2023, 08:35
The Goroka RNAV approach require RNP APCH capability and approval. Not many aircraft or operators have that approval.

There is at least one Part 121 operator who has the approval, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of 135 operators also have it. Not sure about the 125 operators.

The published departure procedures aren’t much different to what we were doing 20 years ago, when departing in marginal WX.

Is Mendi open ago? 😀

chimbu warrior
16th Aug 2023, 10:33
I don't see anything on those AYGA charts mentioning a requirement for AR-capability, radius-to-fix capability or CASA approval.

The way I read it, anyone who has RNP approach capability (0.3) and a TSO C145 or 146 receiver can fly these procedures.

Duck Pilot
16th Aug 2023, 11:59
I don't see anything on those AYGA charts mentioning a requirement for AR-capability, radius-to-fix capability or CASA approval.

The way I read it, anyone who has RNP approach capability (0.3) and a TSO C145 or 146 receiver can fly these procedures.

I agree, however I’m not updated with what’s going on in PNG at the moment😀

LostintheHighlands
10th Nov 2023, 20:43
I agree, however I’m not updated with what’s going on in PNG at the moment😀


The new procedures for AYGA are half alive, they came through on the last nav database update, however they were instantly NOTAM'd unavailable. Apparently the reason is the the boys in the AYGA tower were not trained on the conduct of these procedures. The other day they asked for some unique position reports to help them with a training process, so it seems its underway.

LostintheHighlands
15th Dec 2023, 20:25
NOTAM was lifted on Dec 14 for the new procedures into Goroka