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rjlna
18th Jun 2023, 07:16
Good morning!

Any A 320 pilot on the forum has selected RAM AIR on in flight with passengers?

For how long? What was the outside temperature? What was the actual diff press?

Just want to know the real effect on cabin temperature and pax ears.

Thanks

Meikleour
18th Jun 2023, 12:26
Used it once at about 5,000ft. on approach because of an add smell. Cleared the smell straight away. No surging and packs were off.

rjlna
19th Jun 2023, 13:45
Thank you for your quick answer.

Did you noticed any change in cabin temperature?

Locked door
19th Jun 2023, 14:10
I’ve used it after a double pack failure in the cruise for approx 30 mins at 9000ft after the emergency descent. Short answer,

Diff pressure less than 1psi as per ECAM, can’t remember the OAT but assume close to zero. Cabin altitude same as aircraft altitude, slight pressure surge when ram air selected but we decelerated prior to opening it.

Top tip, don’t open the ram air until you’ve reduced to 250 knots or below to avoid a pressure surge.

There was a slight decrease in temperature, the air felt ‘fresher’ but was perfectly comfortable. The ram air is connected to the mixer unit, the output of which is then temperature controlled by the hot air trim valves so it is heated / temperature controlled. The hot air is bled off from the bleed system prior to the packs so is still available even if both packs are failed but is not available if both bleeds have failed and APU bleed is not available. Pax were blissfully unaware as we descended quick enough to avoid the rubber jungle and we continued to destination. Not one mentioned anything about the descent or low level tour of France.

As bleed air is mixed with the ram air it is useless for clearing smells which are bleed related.

HTH

LD

rjlna
23rd Jun 2023, 05:59
Very good!

Thank you for the advice

iggy
23rd Jun 2023, 08:51
Iíve used it after a double pack failure in the cruise for approx 30 mins at 9000ft after the emergency descent. Short answer,

Diff pressure less than 1psi as per ECAM, canít remember the OAT but assume close to zero. Cabin altitude same as aircraft altitude, slight pressure surge when ram air selected but we decelerated prior to opening it.

Top tip, donít open the ram air until youíve reduced to 250 knots or below to avoid a pressure surge.

There was a slight decrease in temperature, the air felt Ďfresherí but was perfectly comfortable. The ram air is connected to the mixer unit, the output of which is then temperature controlled by the hot air trim valves so it is heated / temperature controlled. The hot air is bled off from the bleed system prior to the packs so is still available even if both packs are failed but is not available if both bleeds have failed and APU bleed is not available. Pax were blissfully unaware as we descended quick enough to avoid the rubber jungle and we continued to destination. Not one mentioned anything about the descent or low level tour of France.

As bleed air is mixed with the ram air it is useless for clearing smells which are bleed related.

HTH

LD

Sorry for drifting here, but... you mean that you didn't even declare mayday during descent?

Thanks!

Locked door
2nd Jul 2023, 20:39
Hi,

Descent clearance was obtained with a pan prior to commencing descent, 7700 selected on the way down. The cabin only climbed at 500fpm and we started from FL330 so it didn’t take long to get down. After a bit of decision making (fuel, pax reaction, MSA’s etc) with ATC agreement we cancelled the pan and continued to destination.