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markkal
9th May 2023, 14:53
Dear members,

Not sure this is the right forum to post this query, but maybe some of you may help

According to EASA SPO's (Specialised operations) see links below, it seems that regulation prohibits the carrying of passenger on certain flights, unless he is a "task specialist" another bureaucratese classification term the understanding of which is not clear to me.

My interpretation of the regulation suggests no passenger may be carried for the listed categories of flight unless he or she is a "Task Specialist" .

I can only assume that a task specialist may be an expert, in this case it may be that the passenger should be high qualified individual maybe even more qualified that the pilot carrying him.
This can make sense e.g. I am an aerobatic pilot and need to take my specialist personal trainer with me to teach me some advanced maneuvers

But what about if I am a rated aerobatic pilot and want to take a passsenger for a ride ?

I need some help here, EASA regulations are written in a bureaucratese language you cannot learn anywhere and very often I have trouble understanding

From the relevant part it seems to me that a simple briefing made by the pilot to a non pilot passenger would suddenly make him a "task specialist", therefore it would indeed by possible to carry a passenger, pilot or not.

Needless to say my insurance covers my passenger in any case in an aerobatic aircraft.

I take the opportunity (Outside the scope of this issue) to ask whether national EASA members CAA's could waive and make more restrictive application of the regulations than those the have underwritten, which have been adopted as law.
I know this has and is happening in certain countries. This issue may be of no exception as many others.

Any help appreciated, and thanks to Pprune to make it possible to reach a worldwide community of pilots and aviators :-)





https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/air-operations/specialised-operations-spo


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portsharbourflyer
9th May 2023, 15:07
SPO is a category of operation, if doing any work under Special Operations then quite simply any crew member on board must be performing a task or role applicable to the purposes of the flight. The most common Task Specialist normally covers surveillance or survey equipment operators. I guess winch personel on civilian rotary SAR would also be classsed as TS.

ATOs get around the aerobatics bit by selling the aerobatic flights as trial lessons, hence the passenger is normally on a temporary membership as a "student".

But if you read your link it does state aerobatics not flown for profit do not fall under SPO. So if you are doing a private flight and you have a suitable aerobatic capable aircraft and you have the appropriate training, you have no limitations on carrying a passenger.

markkal
10th May 2023, 13:05
SPO is a category of operation, if doing any work under Special Operations then quite simply any crew member on board must be performing a task or role applicable to the purposes of the flight. The most common Task Specialist normally covers surveillance or survey equipment operators. I guess winch personel on civilian rotary SAR would also be classsed as TS.

ATOs get around the aerobatics bit by selling the aerobatic flights as trial lessons, hence the passenger is normally on a temporary membership as a "student".

But if you read your link it does state aerobatics not flown for profit do not fall under SPO. So if you are doing a private flight and you have a suitable aerobatic capable aircraft and you have the appropriate training, you have no limitations on carrying a passenger.

Thank you for the information, I gues we will proceed and do like the skydivers create a non profit sports association it sems to be the way around :-)