The United States of Brisbane

[Fonz121]

It’s pretty pathetic that QF are running twenty-year old 330s operated by foreign cabin crew across the Pacific all while the Americans are increasing to daily San Fran and 3-weekly LA services on next-to-new 787s.

Good news for Brissy pax at least.

The additional flights from LAX will make it the largest carrier between the US and Brisbane.


https://simpleflying.com/united-airlines-huge-australia-new-zealand-schedule-expansion-winter-23-24/

[Icarus2001]

They still call Australia 51% home…

[Ascend Charlie]

Yeah, use domestic 330s for international routes, crew rest be buggered.

[Australopithecus]

There are three aeroplanes optimised for long haul. The 330 isn’t one of them.

[dctPub]

Yeah, use domestic 330s for international routes, crew rest be buggered.

Doesn't matter. Jetconnect.

"Some people think that moving Qantas jobs offshore is un-Australian. Not if it's New Zulland, which is like Aussie. At half the price."

[Capt Fathom]

QF are running twenty-year old 330s operated by foreign cabin crew
Aren’t the American crew’s also ‘foreign’?

[morno]

It’s pretty pathetic that QF are running twenty-year old 330s operated by foreign cabin crew across the Pacific

Whilst I’m not going to disagree with you on the appropriateness of the 330 on the BNE-LAX route, the oldest aircraft that does it is only a bit over 13 years old.

[PoppaJo]

It’s the standard these days across many countries, many carriers have now built the cost base around the cheap crewing model, which is all about reducing cost, exploit regulatory loopholes, optimise taxes and keep crew at a distance. Norwegian was atrocious for that, Ryanair is another. Locally we have Jetstar International playing in that space, you fly from Sydney to Honolulu, the crew in the cabin serving you will likely be from Thailand, Indonesia, Japan. Depends how far one wishes to push the boundaries with local employment and immigration laws, I recall Norwegian ran into some trouble with the Americans who started having a look at its dozen odd crewing subsidiaries across its many AOCs. They quickly started hiring a whole heap of American based crews.

The model could be justified by operating routes to say Japan or Thailand, in which a local based crew is needed due to the language requirement. But that isn’t the intention generally.

Your next flight could have cabin crew from a mixture of nations, on a whole range of different agreements working for all sorts of subsidiaries, all on different rates of pay.

[Capn Rex Havoc]

I flew LAX - BNE on the 330 in economy about 6 months ago. Was appalled to see the "crew rest" set up. The cabin crew put cushions on about 3 Rows of the economy class seats and had curtains blocking it. Appalling. It appeared that all of the cabin crew were kiwis. Shame on quantasss.

[Abbey Road]

. Shame on quantasss.
Just so you know, there is no 'u', and only one 's', in Qantas.:ok:

[Captn Rex Havack]

And Havoc is spelt with an a and k

[tossbag]

What an embarrassment from the so called national carrier. American or Delta hasn't ramped up yet, sorry excuse of an airline. They are about to be taught a very expensive lesson.

[Gnadenburg]

QANTAS is a betrayal to our nation with ANZAC-like myths of safety & Aussie ownership. It should be pumping with the predicable uptick in post-COVID aviation demand . It should be pumping with the training of thousands of Australians within the aviation industry. It’s a national disgrace in underperformance considering it’s corporate privilege.

[Global Aviator]

Gotta say the United service when I used it was brilliant.

I’d booked SYD LAX as didn’t realise there was a BNE LAX. Tried calling and doing online but one of those days where technomology seemed to be against me. As I was flying BNE SYD to get my flight anyway thought I’d rock up at UA counter and roll the die…………

Well Fark me, hello sir, we would love to help, a bit of clicking and clacking and a little issue here and there. Sorry sir we have to charge you a fare difference, erm ok what is it? $33 bwahaha (ok maybe a little diff). Point is it was no effort and they wanted to help.

No I wasn’t flying business but yes premium E and I gotta say the product on a 12 hour journey was pretty good.

Point is now you have multiple options over 1 flight. UA all the way!

[PoppaJo]

I have always found most US mainline carriers helpful when it comes to schedule changes or tweaks on my end. We had a delta connection and asked at the gate if they could move us to the earlier one, wasn’t an issue. We had storm delays at a connection point on one flight so I asked if they could re route us via somewhere else, all done no issues and no cost. I find the technology platforms used, websites and apps, especially Delta, top notch.

Executives down under have one clear task, to rip as much revenue from every single soul as they can. They will only look after you if one has a whinge and it makes the local newspaper. Expect a phone call within minutes to resolve.

[Capn Rex Havoc]

Hi Abbey, I definitely know how I spell QUAINTASS, Im sorry, I put in 1 too many s's and I left out the I.

(Nothing gets quaintass princesses more upset then someone putting a u in it)

[tossbag]

There's no u (you) in qantas, isn't that appropriate.

[Troo believer]

Officially Qantas is becoming a joke of an airline.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/united-airlines-biggest-move-in-aviation-history-in-australia-and-new-zealand/news-story/4b931fe52dc62905e2521645d2692bcc

[DirectAnywhere]

You’re assuming anyone in management cares.

QANTAS has become a health insurance/ car insurance/ frequent flyer scheme with a few aircraft attached. They’re only leftover as a carrot to dangle in front of the customers of these schemes to inspire them that they might, one day, get that business class flight to London (no other European ports available) with their points upgrade.

The aviation side of the mainline business has been left to rot for a good couple of decades now.

[blubak]

You’re assuming anyone in management cares.

QANTAS has become a health insurance/ car insurance/ frequent flyer scheme with a few aircraft attached. They’re only leftover as a carrot to dangle in front of the customers of these schemes to inspire them that they might, one day, get that business class flight to London (no other European ports available) with their points upgrade.

The aviation side of the mainline business has been left to rot for a good couple of decades now.
Spot on there!
Trying to milk a $ out of anything they can but i guess when the guy that runs it likes to have an opinion on everything that should be none of his business including telling premiers & prime ministers how they should do their job whilst at the same time shutting down anyone who tries to criticise him.
He is a classic example of someone who cant remember where he came from i.e 1 of the slummiest suburbs in a far away land.

[AerialPerspective]

Hi Abbey, I definitely know how I spell QUAINTASS, Im sorry, I put in 1 too many s's and I left out the I.

(Nothing gets quaintass princesses more upset then someone putting a u in it)

THAN somebody putting a u in it. When the hell did 'then' suddenly become a synonym for 'than'?? If one wants to be picky that is.

[AerialPerspective]

Spot on there!
Trying to milk a $ out of anything they can but i guess when the guy that runs it likes to have an opinion on everything that should be none of his business including telling premiers & prime ministers how they should do their job whilst at the same time shutting down anyone who tries to criticise him.
He is a classic example of someone who cant remember where he came from i.e 1 of the slummiest suburbs in a far away land.

It's what happens when you get to that position and surround yourself with sycophants who tell you what you want to here....... "Oh yes, sire, great idea, and by the way, that dump you took this morning in the executive toilet stall smelled like roses".

[tossbag]

It's what happens when you get to that position and surround yourself with sycophants who tell you what you want to here

When the hell did 'here' suddenly become a synonym for 'hear'?? If one wants to be picky that is.

[FatPilot]

When the hell did 'here' suddenly become a synonym for 'hear'?? If one wants to be picky that is.
a round about the time it was decidded pilots don ' t need to be educatted. no one needs to have finished high school to get a job flying jets any more let a lone even done high sckool physiccs or mathemattics ... let a lone compleete a uni degre. you used to have to do the subjecs , maybe stil do for Quantas not sure, probly not but you don 't need an education for virgin ...... bonzer who knows?? butt you get peopel who don 't understand the basics fo physic's arguing on here and the lack of education show.
don 't like it ? tuff titty don 't shoot the mesenger .

[Mr Proach]

FatPilot, unfortunately for aviators some things will have to change because, apparently, Air Navigation Service Providers world wide are planning to generate NOTAMS in plain English from 210004011600 UTC

[Abbey Road]

Hi Abbey, I definitely know how I spell QUAINTASS, Im sorry, I put in 1 too many s's and I left out the I.

(Nothing gets quaintass princesses more upset then someone putting a u in it)
It is just possible that you need help. See a doctor soon!

[Wizofoz]

Officially Qantas is becoming a joke of an airline.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/united-airlines-biggest-move-in-aviation-history-in-australia-and-new-zealand/news-story/4b931fe52dc62905e2521645d2692bcc

"There won’t be new flights but the Melbourne to San Francisco route will use the airline’s largest planes – the 777-300ER – from October 28 to add nearly 100 daily seats to each departure."

Just as well Dickson and then Joyce avoided investing in that "old technology"...

[Fliegenmong]

Exactly Wiz, I have no idea why the rest of the world did'nt listen to Dickson / Joyce, fools!