BA captain successfully sues BA at industrial tribunal

[Lordflasheart]

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BA captain successfully sues BA at industrial tribunal -

Our tame BA quizmeistro says theres another court hearing, starting on 20 Feb to decide how much compo he gets, including for pay stoppage, being a victim of black-listing and them trying to fiddle his medical record during the pilot strike in 2019.

Several senior staff named in the judgement. Read all about it! ... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62388cf6e90e07799cd3de42/Mr_M_Osborne_v_British_Airways_PLC_3301841.2020_FMH_Reserved _Judgment.pdf
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LFH

[blind pew]

Thanks flash…sad to think that industrial relations are still in the 70s when I took a redress of grievance case which I won but didn’t do me any good.
Not that far removed from the 49ers.
Remember Munich inquiry and Key being bullied as the union rep followed by his untimely demise at Staines.

[Magplug]

The Director Of Flight Operations has just announced his resignation..... Very timely..... surely the two events cannot be connected? :eek::eek::eek:

BA has previous form for putting a PR firebreak between themselves and ambitious managers.

[anxiao]

I wish employment Judge G Tobin or his Asian ilk had been involved in the 49s case. Having read the judgement I think there would have been a more equitable decision in what was in some ways a similar case - the vilification of (a) union member(s) who fought for his/their legal rights. This judgement reads fairly.

Good to see that the DFO has no doubt been asked to defenestrate himself.

I shall follow the remedy hearing with interest.

[Ancient Observer]

Interesting that the Tribunal focussed on Documents, much more than Witnesses.

Learning - If you have a complaint - any complaint, about your employer, put it in writing.

[Ancient Observer]

But if you are the Employer, get rid of these stupid Stone Age agreements.

[Gordomac]

Highly satisfactory and just for the BA Skip. Many in our Industry did not h ave the financial strength or risk capability to take on Management with deep Company funds.

[hunterboy]

What a shame he got very little to no help from BALPA.

[Lordflasheart]

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A bit like Mike Simkins v Thomas Cook Airlines from 2016 - I think he represented himself.

Sorry, lots of big headlines and references to his book (s) but I can't find a current/valid link to his actual judgement -
Can anyone help please ?
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LFH

[OvertHawk]

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A bit like Mike Simkins v Thomas Cook Airlines from 2016 - I think he represented himself.

Sorry, lots of big headlines and references to his book (s) but I can't find a current/valid link to his actual judgement -
Can anyone help please ?
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LFH

There is a link to the judgment on post 27 of this thread.

https://www.pprune.org/safety-crm-qa-emergency-response-planning/588078-pilot-fatigue-victory-sorts-2.html

[Ancient-Mariner]

There is a more complete judgement at:- https://www.balpa.org/About/Files/M-Simkins-vs-Thomas-Cook-Airlines-Ltd-ET-Judgment.aspx

[Lordflasheart]

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Overt and A-M - Thanks for the links.

Blind Pew - You're welcome Milord - ... Plus ça change and deja vu - AOA ?

Phantom-menace - Word in our pub is the DFO had to go because the union refused to deal with him following his disastrous showing at the Tribunal linked above - first post.

Who was it said (roughly) "BA policies are made at (IAG) board level, therefore when the shonet hits the fan ... a scapegoat need to be appointed as sacrificial lamb." ?

That creates a vacancy for a new scapegoat - the Poisoned Chalice springs eternal.

Hot Seat ? Depends what you are allowed to make of it. I'm told Director of Flight Operations used to be a prestigious appointment - now it's just another level of mediochre management, taking orders from any TD&H.

BA sent a completely different team to the Tribunal Remedy Hearing. ... Judgement not expected for a couple of months.

LFH

[propaganda]

An expensive lesson learnt. Where were BA’s legal council in all this - it sounds like poor legal advice received.

[Superpilot]

Egos and personal vendettas. Some of these people incorrectly believe because they are a group and part of big organisation, with access to better lawyers, they will win. We know this as "Risky Shift" in our occupations as pilots. When HR departments and managers realise they got it wrong, they just dig themselves a bigger hole for fear of looking like idiots (only to make it worse). I know of 3 recent cases in the last several years where from the word go the employee's case looked way more solid than the company's, but the company pushed it all the way only to get egg on their faces.

[megan]

A rerun of their treatment of the 777 Skipper who found himself without engines on Heathrow finals, office suits learnt nothing from their mishandling it seems. Then there was the November Oscar as well. Might we see stocks or gallows set up at Waterside to improve morale?