View Full Version : Provo Phenom 300 crash 3rd Jan 2023
atakacs
8th Jan 2023, 08:07
Anyone with more specifics about this crash (https://www.ksl.com/article/50550189/top-nu-skin-distributor-killed-in-plane-crash-at-provo-airport) on Jan 3, 2023 ?
Given the pictures it is amazing that 2 passengers walked form it !
340drvr
8th Jan 2023, 10:56
Unofficial reports mention ground personnel observing the jet on takeoff roll, airborne only a few feet, then one wing dropping and striking the ground, sort of cartwheeling. Weather was light snow all day, 800 foot ceilings. Internet conjecture is that maybe one wing iced up during taxi, or such. RIP
lossiemouth
9th Jan 2023, 16:50
Don't know if this helps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AW4_o2kX3U
ATC Watcher
9th Jan 2023, 19:45
Don't know if this helps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AW4_o2kX3U
Trim + flaps wrong settings on a 2 men crew , + a very experienced pilot ? must be something else I would say. ..
Teddy Robinson
9th Jan 2023, 20:39
Trim + flaps wrong settings on a 2 men crew , + a very experienced pilot ? must be something else I would say. ..
I tend to agree, this has marked similarities to the CL60 accident at Birmingham (UK) a few years ago.
Cause was determined as asymmetric wing icing caused by partial melting of a non de-iced wing by the outflow of warm air from the APU as I recall.
Aircraft became airborne then rolled inverted.
kind regards. TR.
megan
10th Jan 2023, 03:37
Trim + flaps wrong settings on a 2 men crewDoesn't say it was a two man crew, just that there was some one sitting in the copilot seat. It is certified as a single pilot jet.
bizjetway
10th Jan 2023, 09:50
In this video there are two possible explanations to the crash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-5Xieztwk&t=4s
atakacs
10th Jan 2023, 16:14
Doesn't say it was a two man crew, just that there was some one sitting in the copilot seat. It is certified as a single pilot jet.
It was the owner, who unfortunately did not survive the crash. I don’t think he was certified for this aircraft.
I'm rather surprised that in the guy's video he doesn't even consider icing as another possible cause.
BFSGrad
10th Jan 2023, 21:01
It was the owner, who unfortunately did not survive the crash. I don’t think he was certified for this aircraft.
Owner is listed in the FAA database as ATP rated, with CE-500, CE-525, and EMB-505 type ratings.
tdracer
10th Jan 2023, 21:28
Doesn't say it was a two man crew, just that there was some one sitting in the copilot seat. It is certified as a single pilot jet.
The fellow sitting in the right hand seat wasn't a pilot - reported in the local paper to be a bank CEO on the way to the Rose Bowl college football game. Badly injured but expected to recover.
Owner flown with a non pilot friend in the right seat.
Appears to be a relatively new aircraft which was registered mid last year with likely a type just prior to it.
Maybe tail icing, maybe trim issues, maybe a frozen trim, maybe flap setting.
Bad weather.