Just a heads up All Quiet on the Western Front remake

[NutLoose]

Will be screening on Friday 28th on Netflix worldwide and some cinemas and looks pretty impressive, ( over 2 hours long) The original was good so I have high hopes. Link and some of the trailers also in top link. it is directed by the chap that did Deutchland 83.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81260280

https://youtu.be/Y0g9Vul2mIM

.. (https://youtu.be/Y0g9Vul2mIM)

[GeeRam]

Is this a remake of the original, or a remake of the remake?

[Lyneham Lad]

On my current reading list.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/773x950/img_3386_2_58223aedc47f17e1d0f4f833a0f4f20a2c39ca26.jpg

[melmothtw]

On my current reading list.

Interesting choice of cover image. Do the Germans associate poppies with WW1?

[ORAC]

I got a brilliant preview review in The Times.

[212man]

Is this a remake of the original, or a remake of the remake?
pretty obvious if you watch the trailer https://youtu.be/Y0g9Vul2mIM

[typerated]

The new version looks awful.

maximise the 'drama' yet minimal reality - won't be watching anything after the trailer

[NutLoose]

It's tonight and the myriad of reviews say otherwise TypeR

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/all_quiet_on_the_western_front_2022

[fitliker]

Once banned in Germany as an Anti-War book .
Is it not really a book to prepare a young mind for War ?
The next generation of conscripts should read it , so they won’t be shocked when they get to the front .
“Do not stare at the Abyss for too long or you may become the Abyss “ said another German

[longer ron]

It's tonight and the myriad of reviews say otherwise TypeR

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/all_quiet_on_the_western_front_2022

LOL - Dunkirk from a couple of years ago got generally good reviews but it was absolutely dire - we were glad that we did not have to pay to watch it and certainly would not watch again :)

[longer ron]

Also I have just realised that I can see the URL/hot link in post #6 - Have they fixed it ? I have not seen a visible URL/hot link for quite a while on here :)

[Mogwi]

Interesting choice of cover image. Do the Germans associate poppies with WW1?

The German equivalent of our poppy is the forget-me-not (Vergißmeinnicht).

Mog

[NutLoose]

So far…WOW. Very very good at getting over the futility of it all and really well told.
Surpasses the original telling by a long chalk, highly recommended by me..


i would love to read what other thought.


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[langleybaston]

So far…WOW. Very very good at getting over the futility of it all and really well told.
Surpasses the original telling by a long chalk, highly recommended by me..


i would love to read what other thought.


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There was no futility. Survival, or seeking it, is not futile.

[SASless]

I suppose the closer to the mud, blood, and gore one gets....the stronger your feeling of futility might be.

[Akrotiri bad boy]

If you want a really big dose of futility try Remarque's other book, " A Time to Live and a Time to Die". The end will leave you thinking what was the point of all that effort?

[MightyGem]

Also I have just realised that I can see the URL/hot link in post #6 - Have they fixed it ? I have not seen a visible URL/hot link for quite a while on here :)
Likewise, and I still can't see that one.

[longer ron]

Likewise, and I still can't see that one.

Blast it MG - I cannot see the URL's today again either LOL

[unmanned_droid]

I thought it was absolutely brutal. The french counter attack especially so.

I thought that it got over the idea of needless or pointless loss very well - that's the futility. Survival of the individual is not futile, but then, very rarely is it truly in the individuals gift to ensure it happens. And that is reinforced throughout.

Very well made.

[Tartiflette Fan]

The German equivalent of our poppy is the forget-me-not (Vergißmeinnicht).

Mog

I don't think I have ever come across that meaning, Mogwi. Can you give me any link ?

[NutLoose]

I thought it was absolutely brutal. The french counter attack especially so.

I thought that it got over the idea of needless or pointless loss very well - that's the futility. Survival of the individual is not futile, but then, very rarely is it truly in the individuals gift to ensure it happens. And that is reinforced throughout.

Very well made.

Thank you, someone else who saw it, pointlessly sending troops over the top against overwhelming odds to be beaten back, the futility of it all was summed up by the last assault when terms had already been agreed and the war was over at 11am, to simply satisfy the whims of a senior officer by sending his troops to their deaths on a bull**** pretext while he was safely ensconced in his chateau at the rear.

[DIBO]

I don't think I have ever come across that meaning, Mogwi. Can you give me any link ?
https://www.blumenspenden.de/vergissmeinnicht.html
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/300x206/csm_holzkreuze_5b1c343ba5_ee924663cf5ac2e41b9a1535ba001895f5 cd07e8.jpg

[langleybaston]

If the Great War was futile [as is the theme of many].is not Ukraine v. Russia not equally futile, and, if not, why not?

[BBadanov]

Thank you, someone else who saw it, pointlessly sending troops over the top against overwhelming odds to be beaten back, the futility of it all was summed up by the last assault when terms had already been agreed and the war was over at 11am, to simply satisfy the whims of a senior officer by sending his troops to their deaths on a bull**** pretext while he was safely ensconced in his chateau at the rear.

The futility was well summed up by Black Adder 4.

[NutLoose]

If the Great War was futile [as is the theme of many].is not Ukraine v. Russia not equally futile, and, if not, why not?

So pray tell me, if WW1 wasn’t futile, what was gained from it?

[langleybaston]

I did ask my question first, to which you have not answered.
However, out of courtesy:
The fact that we are free to debate, and in English, not German. In August 1914 Great Britain did not have a "do nothing" option..

[NutLoose]

The difference is Ukraine and Russia have not come to a peace agreement, so no futile assault has been launched 15 minutes before the end of the war.

[SASless]

This account of one American action the night of 10-11 November might rise to the level of "futility".

https://historycollection.com/the-tragic-final-hours-on-the-american-fighting-front-in-wwi-were-needlessly-brutal/3/

[langleybaston]

The difference is Ukraine and Russia have not come to a peace agreement, so no futile assault has been launched 15 minutes before the end of the war.

Thus the perceived futility judgement refers not to WW 1 but the final 15 minutes.
Happy to conced that.