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Haligali
30th Apr 2022, 20:05
Hello

I found on internet this new helicopter from Bell! Is this already in production and flying?

Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?
If somebody has some about it?

Tx

wrench1
30th Apr 2022, 20:32
Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?
It's a different variant to the 412EP. The EPi and EPX are marketing names. The EPX was developed with Suburu/Fuji Heavy Industries for a Japanese military competition.
If somebody has some about it?
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/994x153/tcds_412_afd3c69d2d9f40236fc44d5d2354435814b2ef63.png

Haligali
30th Apr 2022, 20:36
Is this helicopter EASA certified?

wrench1
30th Apr 2022, 21:32
Is this helicopter EASA certified?
I don't know. But you can look below to see if it has been added to the EASA TCDS. It is FAA certified.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/type-certificates

chopper2004
1st May 2022, 15:26
Hello

I found on internet this new helicopter from Bell! Is this already in production and flying?

Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?
If somebody has some about it?

Tx

was the JGSDF UH-X winner - Bell 412EPX for the armed forces and the civil version. Saw the first one at Heli Expo 2020. (my pics)

blob:https://www.pprune.org/7bd87b10-0edb-4741-8f4e-b1ecf2f31d56

blob:https://www.pprune.org/8b5890db-e1f3-4be2-b819-7af341febbfe

blob:https://www.pprune.org/37e0d059-58ea-48e7-87aa-e8182007a638

Cheers

PANews
1st May 2022, 22:37
It has been 'around' for some three years. It was launched as a civil project at the Singapore Helicopter Show in 2019 as a mock up and at the Singapore Air Show in 2020 as the flying article. It also appeared at the 2020 Heli-Expo but it seems got lost in covid but now causing a stir now we are coming out the other side with orders pending in the USA.

Main plus point is that it has a better gearbox than the original (the Subaru bit).

Evil Twin
2nd May 2022, 08:00
Main plus point is that it has a better gearbox than the original (the Subaru bit).

I thought it was just a different surface coating used on the gears that enabled an increase in usable power? Could easily be wrong though.

Blackhawk9
3rd May 2022, 08:03
Garmin cockpit, run dry MGB , New composite pilots doors and panels , reduction in basic weight and increase in Max weight, 150 ordered by Japanese Govt , replace Huey , 212, 412 and S-76 in Mil an Govt organisations.
Nice machine , good truck, may not have the appeal of something like a 139 but won't fall apart every 2500 hrs.

wrench1
3rd May 2022, 14:52
EPX spec sheets:
https://www.bellflight.com/-/media/site-specific/bell-flight/documents/products/412/subaru-bell-412epx-product-specifications.pdf

Evil Twin
5th May 2022, 07:29
From the spec sheets provided by wrench those are astrometric screens. I've used them in the 429 and they are far superior and much more reliable than the Rogerson kraptos in the EPI.

Blackhawk9
5th May 2022, 10:32
From the spec sheets provided by wrench those are astrometric screens. I've used them in the 429 and they are far superior and much more reliable than the Rogerson kraptos in the EPI.
Bell have dumped RK junk and gone full Garmin on 505, 407, 429 and 412, all interchangeable between aircraft and coming up with converter kit to fit Garmin into machines with RK stuff.

Evil Twin
5th May 2022, 12:06
Bell have dumped RK junk and gone full Garmin on 505, 407, 429 and 412, all interchangeable between aircraft and coming up with converter kit to fit Garmin into machines with RK stuff.

mate you sure it’s Garmin? I know for sure the the 429 is astrometric (sp) and they were looking at a retro fit solution for RK on the 412 Epi.

The EPI is a pretty good avionics fit and 4 axis autopilot is pretty well done but RK screwed the pooch with high cost and poor reliability

Encyclo
5th May 2022, 14:20
Bye bye, RK; hello Astronautics!

Bell finally got rid of RK, which had been a royal pain in the butt for too many years, with poor design & reliability.

Astronautics is now used in both the 412 & 429 for PFDs.

Astronautics (https://www.astronautics.com/products/displays/primary-flight-displays/)

Fly Safe, Always :ok:

PhlyingGuy
5th May 2022, 15:15
Yeah... they're astronautics on the 429 and 412 Astronautics (https://www.aviationpros.com/engines-components/aircraft-airframe-accessories/avionics/press-release/21122968/astronautics-astronautics-provides-badger-pro-integrated-flight-display-system-for-bell-412epx-and-bell-429-new-production-rotorcraft). The 505 and 407 use G100NXi displays and the 525 uses the G5000.

Blackhawk9
6th May 2022, 04:26
Sorry yes , Astronautics for PFD's, Garman for Nav/Comms, 429/412 , full Garmin 505/407

chopper2004
25th May 2022, 21:59
And the Japanese UH-X which was won by Subaru / Bell to supply Bell 412EPX mil version to the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force replacing their UH-1J Hueys , their UH-2 flies for first time .



https://www.subaru.co.jp/news-en/2022_05_23_142627/?fbclid=IwAR3y-Z3ddUNzc_FTV8Hu2UDQC4O_z6g_lJvvveEE_Wav3bgx1SpqwrWVKgU



https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/attachments/23423910-6ef4-4fd1-90b1-0b7b8ee38044-jpeg.665569/

cheers

chopper2004
16th Aug 2022, 22:01
So today San Bernandino County Sheriff Department joins

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/217298-subaru-bell-412epx-joins-san-bernardino-county-sheriff-s-department?fbclid=IwAR30eTekXczEVl8JRUnvVXIXXRfzD-pnLG3RXr4GchWNLHV-gp9lrGNwQF4

NYPD Aviation Unit

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/216861-new-york-police-department-aviation-unit-selects-subaru-bell-412epx

Ventura County Sheriff Dept

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/211916-ventura-county-sheriff-s-office-selects-subaru-bell-412epx#:~:text=The%20new%20SUBARU%20BELL%20412EPX,Downard%2C %20Ventura%20County%20Sheriff's%20Office.

possibly San Diego Sheriff Dept

https://fireaviation.com/2022/04/29/san-diego-county-sheriff-agrees-to-purchase-bell-412epx-helicopter/

San Diego Gas & Electric

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/211855-san-diego-gas-electric-selects-subaru-bell-412epx

And last year Japan NAtional Police Dept got their first one

https://www.subaru.co.jp/press/news-en/2021_05_20_9832/

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/453x301/2021_0520_1_1_a_c_ngfza4_fc6c3d03f54fd657efbe7df57b1dec0e3c8 e18b8.jpg

cheers

KiwiNedNZ
16th Aug 2022, 22:08
Salt River Project also already ordered one.

SDG&E has been delivered but over at Hangar One getting mods done.

TBM700
5th Oct 2022, 21:40
Love it !
If any of you has the RFM, I do like to have a look inside to see if the Subaru's make the good job I can imagine.

Haligali
8th Oct 2022, 20:31
Also I am looking for Subaru RFM if somebody have it! Thanks

Phoinix
1st Apr 2024, 10:54
I must be getting old; can somebody please find the FAA TCDS for 412 EPX? I checked everything, all in vain.

JDJ
1st Apr 2024, 12:03
https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/DRSDOCID123883289420230209142339.0001?modalOpened=true

- this is the PDF that comes up using "412EPX" in the "Keyword" field.

This is the search page I used:

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/TCDSMODEL/doctypeDetails?Status=Current&Keyword=412EPX

Phoinix
1st Apr 2024, 12:17
Thank you! Got it!