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JanetFlight
19th Dec 2021, 17:39
Hi...since yesterday there is a lot of buzz on the internet aviation groups about a video sent to LOT Polish Airlines Pilots regarding the fact when they cancel a UNS APP and Go Around, the management offer them a box of sweet chocs :)
I cannot upload the clip here but at least here it goes the pic.
Am i thinking "out of the box", or it really seems a kind of weird..!?:rolleyes:
Cheers,,,Merry Xmas!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/719x960/267742664_588981285528842_7779699078978474868_n_a6fde5841e03 a14588e22b7c4849df4c9135bc8e.jpg

FUMR
19th Dec 2021, 18:24
It will soon stop when they get 50+ go arounds per day! :);)

pilotDE747
19th Dec 2021, 18:41
I know few guys from the management and I am quite sure that this is some extremely clever safety culture promotion, went viral. Some Airlines send similar messages after go arounds by emails or a simple thank you notes on a fancy stationery. But this is out of the box indeed. Kudos to the Safety Department.

Mariner
19th Dec 2021, 19:23
I once heard that SAS used to do something similar; a bottle of wine for each go-around. Perhaps someone can confirm it.
I find it an excellent idea.
No one will do a go-around frivolously, but if an approach becomes iffy, a go-around will almost always be the safer option.
Management should encourage this, and this is one way to show it.

Del Prado
19th Dec 2021, 23:35
Surely a proportion of the chocolates should go to ATC who put them in that situation in the first place??

😉😁😁

Bksmithca
20th Dec 2021, 01:31
It will soon stop when they get 50+ go arounds per day! :);)
so your suggesting that pilots are deliberately going to do a go around for what looks like a $2.00 box of chocolates?

ShyTorque
20th Dec 2021, 01:45
It’s a clever way of letting pilots know that the company do not begrudge a go around if seen necessary. A small token is obviously far, far cheaper than a bent airframe, or worse.

ATC Watcher
20th Dec 2021, 07:46
Very refreshing to see this, as there were still recently some airlines in Asia that suspended or even fired pilots for going around.`
As to the chocolates for ATC, ask Swiss, the old Swissair tradition to send us chocolates still continues today ,and you may sometimes still hear on the R/T a Swiss requesting a chocolate routing, : ;)

FUMR
20th Dec 2021, 10:36
so your suggesting that pilots are deliberately going to do a go around for what looks like a $2.00 box of chocolates?

Oh dear. I think you took me too seriously. I thought the :);) was a good indication that it was tongue-in-cheek!

Tech Guy
20th Dec 2021, 18:39
It will soon stop when they get 50+ go arounds per day! :);)
From all the pilots, or individually? :)

ICEHOUSES
20th Dec 2021, 19:38
What do the Middle East carriers offer crews for this event.?

Chronic Snoozer
21st Dec 2021, 01:53
Can pilots just be left to make their own professional decisions without needing to justify or otherwise to safety culture warriors, much less be given a box of chocolates like a puppy getting a treat for doing it's first poo outside?

ehwatezedoing
21st Dec 2021, 03:48
Can pilots just be left to make their own professional decisions without needing to justify or otherwise to safety culture warriors, much less be given a box of chocolates like a puppy getting a treat for doing it's first poo outside?
Your answer typically shows that no matter what one will do, one will never be able to please everybody.
(One as an individual, a groupe, a company, etc...)

N707ZS
21st Dec 2021, 07:04
Wonder if Ryanair pilots get anything.

ATC Watcher
21st Dec 2021, 07:12
Can pilots just be left to make their own professional decisions without needing to justify or otherwise to safety culture warriors
But it is exactly this type on behavior modern safety culture wants to abolish.. We do not need the "heroes" of the 20th century anymore, but individuals that understand and follow a company safety culture . and it is not bout justifying a decision , but on thee contrary rewarding a good one. I do not know LOT internally but if the Safety people of that airline felt it would be good to pass that message , and someone had the good idea to use chocolate boxes for that, good on them .

The AvgasDinosaur
21st Dec 2021, 07:18
Wonder if Ryanair pilots get anything.
An invoice for the extra fuel ?

SOPS
21st Dec 2021, 07:22
What do the Middle East carriers offer crews for this event.?

Cup of tea, no biscuits, and maybe a stern letter, is my guess.

ShyTorque
21st Dec 2021, 13:18
Can pilots just be left to make their own professional decisions without needing to justify or otherwise to safety culture warriors, much less be given a box of chocolates like a puppy getting a treat for doing it's first poo outside?

The fact that a box of chocolates might be given is the relevant point. Itís only a token indication of the managementís common sense attitude about pilots making their own professional decisions.

Consol
21st Dec 2021, 21:35
Wouldn't the text be in Polish?

FUMR
21st Dec 2021, 21:43
Wouldn't the text be in Polish?

Be aware that not all their pilots are Polish!

White Knight
22nd Dec 2021, 04:58
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEHOUSES View Post (https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/644277-lot-chocolates-going-around.html#post11158829)
What do the Middle East carriers offer crews for this event.?
Cup of tea, no biscuits, and maybe a stern letter, is my guess.

C'mon SOPS. You should know better!

Speaking for us at EK you'll get the tea and no biscuit and very stern letter if you DON'T go around off an unstable approach! I certainly wouldn't be expecting a box of chocolates though for just doing my job though!