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242HARDTOP
23rd Nov 2021, 11:09
.....are any non vaxed private pilots having trouble getting someone to do their biannual flight review , i have been knocked
back by my usual guy because i have not had 2 clot shots or a certificate to prove it.......

biscuit74
23rd Nov 2021, 18:31
Not being vaccinated might make things a deal harder for getting a BFR done. Quite a few examiners and instructors are likely to be of an age to be concerned, Also, if you routinely fly with other people, being vaccinated and reducing your exposure to the rather higher risk involved with an unvaccinated person may make sense, from the perspective both of personal safety and reducing risk to others.

MrAverage
24th Nov 2021, 08:51
We're obviously not in 'stralia, but no one, absolutely no one, even comes through the doors of our Club - let alone gets in our aircraft - unless they're fully vaccinated.

Dave Gittins
24th Nov 2021, 12:08
Just done my "hour with an instructor" and I know he is fully vaxxed and boostered and so am I . Despite that, the club's protocol dictated that we masked up.

Am due to go to the USA over Christmas and will be doing my BFR there and strangely, despite all the other details I've been asked for, covid vax hasn't come up at all.

double_barrel
24th Nov 2021, 13:10
Anyone else finding it difficult to be heard on the radio or intercom with a mask on? I have to press the microphone into the mask as I talk.

Maoraigh1
24th Nov 2021, 19:13
I had my "hour-with-an-instructor" last month. I'm triple-vaxed. We didn't wear masks in the Pa38.
Would putting the mic under the mask make the mask useless? In from the side away from the other occupant

Genghis the Engineer
25th Nov 2021, 09:48
I've flown a number of times with people who, like me, are fully vaccinated. Most times we've masked up, it's not a big ask, and the microphone works fine.

Ultimately it will come down to the comfort levels of the most nervous person on board.

Basically, get vaccinated, AND take precautions. There's no reason not to really.

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jollyrog
25th Nov 2021, 13:15
You choose not to be vaccinated. Instructors choose not to fly with you. Seems fair.

Genghis the Engineer
26th Nov 2021, 11:09
You choose not to be vaccinated. Instructors choose not to fly with you. Seems fair.

At risk of getting political, this is at the root of a lot of the present political controversies over vaccines, vaccine passports, etc.

Yes, absolutely, everybody (certainly all adults) should have the right to choose whether to get vaccinated or not. But that does not mean that the rest of society should have the duty to co-exist closely with the unvaccinated - whether that's on public transport, a pub, or an aeroplane.

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Pilot DAR
26th Nov 2021, 11:11
Yes, there is a risk of getting political... So let's not, okay?

mikehallam
26th Nov 2021, 11:18
Yes, there is a risk of getting political... So let's not, okay?
It is however Not political to say that "choice" cuts both ways.

Either not to be vaccinated (and potentially afflict fellow men) or to allow folk to choose to not knowingly get close to them.
[& that's the rub}

Pilot DAR
26th Nov 2021, 11:31
Yes, we extend to each other the right to make an informed choice. What constitutes "informed" varies person to person, which is also fair. If it's the state of a person's vaccination status which is an element of "informed" before someone else allows them to be close, that's fair too. None of that is political, it's just respectful.

Where the expectation of being vaccinated is imposed gets political. Let's avoid being drawn into that vortex....

Genghis the Engineer
26th Nov 2021, 12:45
The other aspect of that is "expectation": I have no right (in my opinion) to expect my neighbour to be vaccinated, as they never actually enter my home, car or cockpit. It is, in my opinion, somewhat different to ask the question of somebody who is going to spend time locked into a small metal box with me.

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