View Full Version : Cessna 340 Down in California
cavuman1
11th Oct 2021, 22:11
Santee, CA. Two fatalities. Not much more information at this time.
Cessna 340 Accident (https://www.yahoo.com/news/homes-burn-plane-crashes-california-195549286.html)
- Ed
Newforest2
12th Oct 2021, 06:45
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/268478 Sad news.
DaveReidUK
12th Oct 2021, 07:18
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/268478 Sad news.
The ATC transcript looks a bit odd - several references to a "Runway 23" at KSEE, which appears not to exist.
340drvr
12th Oct 2021, 10:03
The ATC transcript looks a bit odd - several references to a "Runway 23" at KSEE, which appears not to exist.
The destination was Montgomery Field, KMYF.. I believe all the ATC directions reference that airport, and it's approaches and runways.
Sad news, indeed. RIP
Ikijibiki
12th Oct 2021, 17:18
The recording of the ATC conversation makes me think the pilot wasn't quite right just prior to the accident. One expert speculates there may have been a medical emergency he was dealing with, perhaps a heart attack or stroke. Ironically, the pilot was a cardiologist.
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BrogulT
12th Oct 2021, 21:27
Does anyone know what the ceiling was at the time? Is there any possibility he was in IMC? It doesn't look like it from photos and video at the time, but it sure seems like either an IMC upset or a loss of control due to some other issue, like medical.
340drvr
13th Oct 2021, 11:23
Here's the METARs from around the time of the accident (approx. 1915Z). He could have been IMC at vectoring altitude.
KSEE 111955Z 21011KT 10SM BKN030 20/13 A2978
KSEE 111855Z 20012G17KT 10SM BKN027 19/13 A2980
KMYF 111953Z 18013KT 9SM SCT023 OVC029 19/13 A2977 RMK AO2 SLP078 T01940128
KMYF 111853Z 18010KT 10SM BKN017 OVC028 19/14 A2980 RMK AO2 SLP086 T01940139
JamaicaJoe
13th Oct 2021, 18:17
Confused? Disoriented? Stalls plane on climb? - Finally heeds ATC command to climb to 5000 without applying additional power? The pilots words were very hard to understand.
visibility3miles
13th Oct 2021, 19:14
Definitely not IMC
Broken or scattered clouds perhaps, but not overcast or IMC. IMHO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTxE0PJU5Ss
visibility3miles
13th Oct 2021, 19:53
In addition, in California, unless there is a fire or fog (or smog) nearby, the visibility is at least ten miles or far more unless you are actually in a cloud, given that the humidity tends to be quite low.
IMHO