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ElNull
6th Sep 2021, 14:51
Any ideas why the Spoilers bias up during 787 Autoland?

From the FCOM:

Flare

Below 350 feet radio altitude, the inboard spoilers are biased up incrementally. If the autopilot is subsequently disengaged, the spoiler bias is removed and a slight forward column control force may be required to maintain trim.

FlyingStone
6th Sep 2021, 15:08
I suspect it's similarly to flare spring bias in some other Boeing airplanes, to reduce rate of descent if the autopilot(s) are disengaged and prevent hard touchdown, as well as aid go-around.

ElNull
6th Sep 2021, 15:17
Thanks, but how would the spoilers reduce the rate of descent?

dixi188
6th Sep 2021, 16:01
Is it Direct Lift Control like the Tristar had?

B2N2
6th Sep 2021, 16:27
Auto drag function to counter ground effect?
section 9.20.19 of the 787 FCOM.

oldmacdonald757
6th Sep 2021, 16:32
dixi188

I wish it was. But sadly not. DLC is awesome

FlyingStone
6th Sep 2021, 17:17
ElNull

They don't, but the effect on the inboard spoilers seems to be that the aircraft requires a bit more nose up trim with spoilers deployed. If the autopilot is then disengaged, the spoiler bias is removed (i.e. the spoilers retract) but the nose up trim still exists, which will mean that pitch will increase slightly and that should arrest the descent to some extent.

PS: Not 787 rated, just guessing based on similar behaviour on other Boeing aircraft, as well as what the note says (slight forward pressure required means that aircraft is slightly out of trim in the NU direction).

roundsounds
6th Sep 2021, 22:56
B2N2

the auto drag function is gradually removed below 500’ RA, so wouldn’t help with the ground effect.
the spoiler bias forces a slight nose up trim condition.

Fly3
7th Sep 2021, 01:27
It may be part of the Landing Attitude Modifier system which partially deploys the inboard three spoilers in certain conditions.