Which Aerodrome Mk IV [Archive]

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd May 2021, 09:22

Thanks siftydog it was a bit of a fluke. I couldn't see too many eucalyptus trees so I thought I would widen the search a bit to within sort of Viscount range. Later did a bit of digging and think your snap probably shows Viscount A6-435 which was at Christchurch on 8th February 1967 collecting the Australian Prime Minister.

Here is one to go on with. I'll put another clue on this evening.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/459x256/pf_landing_snaps_2__9e4ddc24dfcda674d83c2e69b05bd724e94b5fd9 .jpg

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd May 2021, 19:10

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1443x611/screenshot_2021_05_07_google_maps_000800f93597ae0e4793f58de8 b15d9487e9597e.png

Threshold present day.

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 05:50

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/687x681/male_european_nightjar_7b78f0891f8163e7fef20a3dd99eacedd8f27 106.png

Once quite common on the aerodrome............its crest not well seen.........emblematic

siftydog

24th May 2021, 07:19

It looks a green and pleasant land but a big sky… East Anglia or Northern France perhaps.

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 07:27

Indeed one or the other.

Asturias56

24th May 2021, 07:53

Somewhere like Thetford Snarehill? - Good for Nightjars...........

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 08:17

Not like Thetford (Snarehill) would encounter performance limitations there..........

chevvron

24th May 2021, 10:56

RAF Graveley?
I'll tell you why if I'm correct.

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 14:24

Sorry for the delay chevvron we had to leave the wilds of north-east Norfolk this morning in a futile quest for a replacement motor car. ( My wife suggested a Hearse rather than an old-people carrier.) I'm afraid it isn't Gravely but perhaps I'll do that next and then you can tell me why. I'm loathe to put up another visual clue just yet, however Folks can have a look at the first image, just below the windshield. That should give an indication of aircraft type - I've put a couple of hints on the image of the Night Jar too which should move us all on a bit............?

chevvron

24th May 2021, 14:41

Windshield looks like a Viscount and there's a 'line' in the grass to the left of the runway which led me to suggest Graveley.

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 14:42

chevvron if your answer about Gravely was to include 692 Squadron all I can say is that you were certainly in one respect working along the right lines.

I see our posts have crossed. I fear it is not a Viscount. Keep chipping away !

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 16:05

siftydog

24th May 2021, 18:59

RAF Spanhoe?

OUAQUKGF Ops

24th May 2021, 21:29

Sorry Sifty - it is not RAF Spanhoe . This was an RAF Aerodrome but there were no Transport Squadrons stationed there until the end of The War. I will leave it at that for the moment. Perhaps The Night Shift can make a connection? Incidentally the first and the above image were taken in July 1944.

ea200

24th May 2021, 22:00

Downham Market (AKA Bexwell)?

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 04:39

ea200 alas not Downham Market but you could be getting warm....... (214 Squadron moved to Downham from Chedburgh)

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 04:41

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1138x810/photo_album_4_group_2_wallace_819dcb0c81c628f7f866fd197943b3 ef97db72fd.jpg

214 (FMS) Squadron Chedburgh 1943. Based here October 1942 - December 1943. A period when they suffered their heaviest losses. Photo credit Dave Wallace son of Flt Lt A.C. Wallace via 214 Squadron website. https://www.214squadron.org.uk/

Max Tow

25th May 2021, 04:41

Would that be a 214 Sqn Stirling?

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 04:52

Ultor in umbris - Check badge !

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 05:11

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x838/prang_3953e460b5fdb31ba7df1d3ac2faf58216f592f3.png
Stirling HCU Landing Accident 1944 - no casualties. Photo credit New Zealand Bomber Command Association.

Max Tow

25th May 2021, 05:13

Chedburgh? I had thought of that previously but according to 214 history they had moved out before your July 44 date to be replaced by 1653 HCU?

p.s. Does dawn come early in Norfolk these days?

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 05:17

Bravo Max Tow - Chedburgh, Suffolk it is. I'll put some pictures on.

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 05:33

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x1131/pfordta17040015_1_take_off_50568defa3dc1119e1756abc397d0fbb9 8f928da.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x1131/pfordta17040016_2_landing_snaps_4d84314c6852c51353d389d2f1d8 bb4c47cb5faa.jpg

Pages from Flying Officer Terry Ford's (75 Squadron) Album. 1653 HCU Chedburgh. Photo credit University of Lincoln IBCC Archive.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1346x920/ha_q_edith_218_f7909769aad16aa2db0b58790bcc59ab4079bb7f.jpg

218 Squadron Chedburgh December 1944-August 1945

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1416x656/imgexec_2387_credit_ukairfieldsandairports_website_3eb2aecf6 223d171580662b818b8f9db01cd918f.jpg

Looking towards the threshold to R/W 23. Photo credit ukairfieldsandairports website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6jRlgzzevM

Max Tow

25th May 2021, 05:45

Great photos, thanks!
OH to give someone else a chance. If not, I'll post something at 1100Z

OUAQUKGF Ops

25th May 2021, 05:56

Thanks Max - couldn't sleep.

Max Tow

25th May 2021, 10:56

Try this one...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/857x407/615f20d5_bf82_49a6_bb02_defac37e68c8_1_201_a_277400587624626 2bd96c76c33ff008390a43b73.jpeg

chevvron

25th May 2021, 13:03

I think my remarks about 692 Squadron and Graveley better be disregarded as irrelevant. A small visual clue for you all.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/135x395/pfordta17040015_1_take_off_controls_2__8bdf8703be3213d9e8a8e 98e2fc0b10187554df5.jpg
Looks like a Hudson.
The reason I suggested Gravely was because I identified the line to the left of the runway as possbly being FIDO and the taxiway pattern was similar to Gravely.

Asturias56

25th May 2021, 13:30

Interesting challenge in the NEW 4th Age of Which Aerodrome. Dc-3, some small aircraft and a proper PanAm job. the roof of the hanger is rather manky TBH - For some reason Canada popped into my mind?

SimonPaddo

25th May 2021, 13:57

Wild, wild shot but reminiscent of old moth eaten hangers left of 10L threshold, as it was then, at Heathrow. Remember Pan Am 707s in there early 70s

Jn14:6

25th May 2021, 14:00

Looks like a Bavaria Herald in the foreground, with an (ex-Hamble?) Apache and a Morava in the hangar with the DC-3. Maybe Field's at East Midlands?

Max Tow

26th May 2021, 00:18

Sorry, not EMA,LHR or even Canada.
Regulars of the previous "Which Aerodrome Mk III"may recall a recent challenge to find an airfield with a former motor racing track. This place shares that feature, albeit briefly. Going back a few more years from the original photo:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/645x434/48faa985_c1df_48be_b72c_f7b9d14ce4fc_1_201_a_b104fc820958181 db25539b6729392fe0f6f8094.jpeg
1950

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/462x318/bb2fa1af_7c2d_4627_ae14_e2b293a0c599_4_5005_c_80cfc8cfbdde83 9ee76487f2e47d0a439ed94a20.jpeg
1950

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/484x281/459a004f_4732_45b2_9cef_161f5222711c_4_5005_c_af239a9bf80b78 787e11b43a2893f3367739df16.jpeg
1950s

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/284x263/7113f5c3_0354_43ca_918f_83fa67212abe_4_5005_c_1b114bdcae193c 93873c0d348d3a0973b9b2be30.jpeghttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/224x183/8eac8418_99f3_44b5_9910_4017d9b3b977_4_5005_c_6a8b16ce197fc0 e4677afbe31e7d81239cb7472e.jpeg
1950

Allan Lupton

26th May 2021, 08:45

Germany perhaps?

OUAQUKGF Ops

26th May 2021, 09:10

Milan - Malpensa ?

Max Tow

26th May 2021, 09:26

Yes to Allan and...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/114x124/be082a39_d6f0_47e0_99f5_922e6399ac07_4_5005_c_8ee508add6eff6 3f89e858f6d92c9a6c8b004ac6.jpeg
..a DH nose for Mr Lupton...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/679x431/1b0565d1_ed3b_4f5c_8e44_a601821a4cef_1_201_a_0573cb1c19dfdb4 973689b5d37056f9046db1092.jpeg
...and another Hatfield nose (ish) carrying a rocket man home

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/671x459/30c96507_06b5_4395_ac7c_09ae2579930a_1_201_a_6f3733e15831507 f69e9e4e426da6e1e32da9f9d.jpeg
A visitor from the early 30s, some of whose passengers were, in a very real sense, at the leading edge of air travel...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/572x378/f915872d_daf3_410c_a9aa_b669b8d5a92b_1_201_a_d128f7e45e33a20 9bff56f9dba7a6a04034c6b57.jpeg
and another visitor from the late 30s, of great consequence

sycamore

26th May 2021, 11:04

Well,the car is an AFM driven by it`s designer Alexander von Falkenhausen,also chief engineer for BMW vehicles during WW2,racing at Munich-Riem Airfield in 1949. The m/cycle may be an NSU modified scooter....

OH if correct

Max Tow

26th May 2021, 12:42

Munich Riem it is, despite the deliberate mis-steer of using Pan Am rather than LH images!

The Herald in the first photo was correctly spotted as op by Bavaria.

Part of the Riem perimeter was used for motor cycle and F2 car racing between 1949 and 1951. The Pan Am Connie was on its first visit to the airport in 1950 after post-war repairs. The Comet was United Arab SU-ALE after an overrun in Feb 1970 and the SAS Caravelle was bringing Wernher von Braun on a visit back home in 1960. The Lockheed Electra was of course G-AEPR arriving with Neville Chamberlain in Sep 1938.

The Junkers G.38 was an interesting beast - only 2 built and used by Lufthansa through the 30s. The second one, D2500/D-APIS, shown at Munich, carried 34 passengers including 6 in the wing roots - by all accounts, a very noisy and uncomfortable place to be. This particular aircraft was apparently destroyed in Athens by RAF bombers in 1941. The Japanese built 6 more as the Mitsubishi Ki-20 bomber.

Riem has long since closed but the iconic tall red tower survives in the exhibition grounds together with a token strip of runway.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/324x458/3d4e1de7_8572_4aab_a348_13941e3861ec_4_5005_c_5d9093562ba81f cf4f97c7d2c5efe20aca058ab0.jpeg
Motor racing 1949-51

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/533x405/ab86e749_236f_4b39_b064_92c8c2a19292_1_201_a_0a1a89968d37936 e38c2cf9cbae50d15d11530d6.jpeg
Junkers G.38 with seating in wing leading edge

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/464x375/415f939d_c39f_447d_89c4_3e21b6075076_1_201_a_f142500d0cf61e1 77f399653c195fa82e47d3893.jpeg
SU-ALE written-off Feb 70

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/497x494/ec0fa389_8eab_4022_ac3d_d3b1954d2731_1_201_a_e160ba9c953d063 474084f6fc978935d441c8b86.jpeg
The old tower now "Brainlab", an exhibition/function centre

OH called...

OvertHawk

26th May 2021, 22:21

Since it's open house... Try this one folks:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1379/img406_2847112488c50fb7e7e8004e04ade877c7406515.jpg

chevvron

27th May 2021, 04:25

Barnesly Park?

OvertHawk

27th May 2021, 07:34

Barnesly Park?

Nope.

I'll give it a bit longer then post some clues.

One hint - don't necessarily let the black and white image guide you - it was taken well into the era of colour.

lauriebe

27th May 2021, 13:03

Looks to be a few 'derelict' airframes there. A crash practice area perhaps at Catterick.

OH if correct.

OvertHawk

27th May 2021, 18:37

Looks to be a few 'derelict' airframes there. A crash practice area perhaps at Catterick.

OH if correct.

You're correct

Catterick (from a VGS glider) circa 1985.

Here are a couple of other photos.

Note the VGS gliding caravan at the threshold adjacent to the Hastings.

The fuselage behind the Hastings is Buccaneer then (obviously) a Vulcan and beside that (if i recall) the remains of a much scorched Javelin and another Vulcan.

Below that a photo of the domestic site.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x669/img405_8a9d9566eed09c199c51e11959df832a5f851511.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1389/img140_88aeaba0b9fd16b89a6fac9aae177e74e9135063.jpg

India Four Two

28th May 2021, 03:12

Here's one that is a long way from North Yorkshire:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/170x255/wad_2021_05_27_6ec59e29c63c8a5504e14f263e134fe2e440daf4.jpg

Asturias56

28th May 2021, 08:06

the careful application of HS&E to allow a vast number of people to live literally at the end of the runway suggests SE Asia to me............. Indonesia?

India Four Two

28th May 2021, 14:32

Asturias,

Your thought process applies to this location, but it is not Indonesia.

Asturias56

28th May 2021, 14:56

S E Asia then?

Asturias56

28th May 2021, 14:59

Nope - its Goma - much in the news - somewhere with big lake, that weird strip connection the terminal to the runway.......

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/395x632/2021_05_28_155833_6e8dcd741b2686fcd41f04a3e81196760284bc6e.j pg

India Four Two

29th May 2021, 04:44

Asturias has it with Goma. The original picture shows the 2002 lava flow which shortened the runway and inundated the taxiway, cutting off the terminal from the runway!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x480/2002_lava_5e3cac322f724e2757b967a026299f83c6891f51.jpg

The recent lava flow came from the same vent system on the southern flanks of Mount Nyiragongo. It didn't reach the airport this time, but it did destroy hundreds of houses.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x563/goma_international_airport_ff6a07b49e9fe379d6857bdf9d1a7bc4b 093e56a.jpg

Airfield at the top left:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x480/goma_2021_lava_63eeaeff0b361b779058a318550bf264dcec56b9.jpeg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1420x2000/unosat_a3_natural_portrait_vo20210523cod_geological_informat ion_mountnyiragongo_drcongo_28may2021_v1_pdf_6b227421a5ddbd4 3b089c4f0fb19fc5f4910abfe.jpg

Asturias has control.

Asturias56

29th May 2021, 07:39

Phew!

here's one a ways from Goma.......................... and any volcano!

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/902x306/2021_05_28_160447_fb3d5d1068c8ee3a061919dfee9dbadad263dc17.j pg

India Four Two

30th May 2021, 05:14

Oklahoma is OK, perhaps?

Asturias56

30th May 2021, 07:14

Yes, there's a bright golden haze on the meadow

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/350x267/2021_05_28_160755_f237c0d899e3a2cc6f06740b08aa463854e55bf8.j pg

sycamore

30th May 2021, 10:04

But no elephants....

chevvron

30th May 2021, 12:12

But no elephants....
That's corny

Asturias56

30th May 2021, 16:00

I've got a wonderful feeling, everything's going my way.................................:ok:

There are a lot of airfields in the Sooner State

Asturias56

31st May 2021, 07:17

This airfield was active for long time but is no longer in use (at least for fixed wing - may be some ballooning occasionally ) ...................

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/211x634/2021_05_28_161140_103acd0ad58ff99e2b958b69b6983148f02c714e.j pg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/253x252/2021_05_28_160943_c2e03148a4b2f2643a5dcf59698d867a4b49bd04.j pg

teusje

31st May 2021, 16:56

Hatbox Field (HAX), Muskogee, OK

Asturias56

1st Jun 2021, 15:57

Good shot!

yes - the late Hatbox Field - now a park/motor track etc etc - still do some ballooning there tho'

AS we started with a song - lets all go out together..

"We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691641)
We don't take no trips on LSD (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-3877747);
We don't burn no draft cards down on Main Street (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691663)
But, We love living right, and being free (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-3877766)
We don't make a party out of loving
But we like holding hands and pitching woo; (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691692)
We don't let our hair grow long and shaggy (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691705)
Like the hippies out in San Francisco do (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-4693166)

[Chorus]
And I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691735)
A place where even squares can have a ball;
We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-3885666)
White lightning's still the biggest thrill of all (https://genius.com/Merle-haggard-okie-from-muskogee-lyrics#note-2691726)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/525x378/2021_05_28_160435_ef377d454e992131849ea13d37b586e7be52f0d7.j pg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/338x301/2021_05_28_160344_2bc7fab922fc8eb98c31a131a82a8dad27718ced.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/687x679/2021_05_28_160247_87d28e3532d8c7ccbfe402a11ac6c91374fcd94e.j pg

teusje

1st Jun 2021, 16:18

Thank you, Asturias.
And on with the next one.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/630x480/1a_9be1b1f66245f30c24a8f1c73fa697b95a94e958.jpg

descol

1st Jun 2021, 19:08

The roof is Pacific - maybe Tarawa

Self loading bear

1st Jun 2021, 19:59

Hello Threaders

Short intermezzo,

With the start of Mk IV. I was reminded of the Index Excel sheet nvubu has been managing.
Has anybody email contact with nvubu?
I send him a PM but nvubu has not replied nor been on the thread for a week.
I hope he is well.

Anyway,
I started updating the index and like nvubu has said earlier:
It is quite laborious work.
I have now back tracked 2021 (47 challenges up to 16-05)
and I have done May 2019 (just alone 57 challenges, with as excess 11 May with 5 challenges)

I think indeed the pace is more balanced nowadays.

If any one would like to help:
please start from 1st Jan 2020 and give me a PM.

mgahan

1st Jun 2021, 21:58

I'll help out while teusje sleeps - not Tarawa, unless there has been massive reconstruction since i was there on Monday to have my first AZ jab. But It does jolt the memory about somewhere I've been in the past and the roof certainly look like one of the PAIP projects. . .Tuvalu?

MJG

kcockayne

1st Jun 2021, 22:30

Mahe, Seychelles ?

Asturias56

2nd Jun 2021, 07:37

I had a PM from him a few months back saying he was working on an update to the spreadsheet

teusje

2nd Jun 2021, 15:19

The Pacific is right, but not Tarawa or Tuvalu.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x431/2a_6fdfb2ee270f014265986a101b0636920671d4bc.jpg

descol

2nd Jun 2021, 15:44

Its Old Kona - attached google pdf - not sure if it will open ?
Open House if correct
Descol

teusje

2nd Jun 2021, 16:28

descol has it. Kona on the island of Hawai.
descol has declared an Open House.

OUAQUKGF Ops

4th Jun 2021, 09:54

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1360x648/screenshot_2021_05_28_nocturne_b70564b1fe748199efbe08b1261e0 2e8fc8f6bb0.png

Photo Credit Wallace Shackleton.

OUAQUKGF Ops

4th Jun 2021, 21:25

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/971x344/screenshot_2021_05_28_french_casa__1b4cb24f38faf323c17e66c91 c4ba6dfad08e607.png

A bitter-sweet association with Sevilla.......

Asturias56

5th Jun 2021, 07:41

Sevilla - famous for oranges (and a bloody great Cathedral)

Bitter sweet? another sort of Orange = Tangerine? Bitter because the Spanish and Moroccans are having another spat over the old Spanish Sahara?

Thus perhaps its Tangiers?

OUAQUKGF Ops

5th Jun 2021, 08:10

Good to hear from you Asturias. You are on right track - sadly wrong Country.

Asturias56

5th Jun 2021, 08:53

OK - there appears to be some Japanese graffiti on the concrete block behind the aircraft top left - so maybe Satsuma - but that's in land and there isn't an airfield within many miles. Another classic Japanese orange is the Mandarin produced largely in Wakayama prefecture. Doesn't look like Kobe or Kansai so it might be Tokushima Awaodori?

OUAQUKGF Ops

5th Jun 2021, 10:07

You can't baffle me with long words but I fear Japan is very distant from our aerodrome - altho' we are for sure in the Northern Hemisphere.....

OUAQUKGF Ops

5th Jun 2021, 10:09

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1097x648/screenshot_2021_05_28_flightline__6a2ae3795825f561564ff6cf07 d5169af6964969.png

Photo Credit Gary Kenney.

OUAQUKGF Ops

5th Jun 2021, 13:19

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/329x575/a_control_tower_trim_6732852a9c1869602a48496ae642bc13ceefff1 9.jpg

Photo Credit Tom Singfield

This should be a piece of cake. (Dundee)

OUAQUKGF Ops

6th Jun 2021, 05:54

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/879x568/aerodrome_rapides_92a468524f47a60c7e7e2f46c078000f9b915d9a.p ng

This is the earliest image (C.1950s) that I can find of this smallish post-war aerodrome - which in good times has a limited number of scheduled services and a Flying School.

OUAQUKGF Ops

6th Jun 2021, 08:52

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1152x864/mayo2_753b953cca39e8b4d75967866fcd197e6779a195.jpg

Memorial on Dundee Waterfront.

Max Tow

6th Jun 2021, 09:16

Love that first photo!
Dundee? OH if correct.

Jn14:6

6th Jun 2021, 09:18

Dundee? OH if by fluke correct.

OUAQUKGF Ops

6th Jun 2021, 11:55

Well Max and Jn14:6 - almost a photo-finish. Thank you Dundee Riverside it is. Asturias I really thought you were going to nail it but alas not. The answer lay in Marmalade. A few snaps to finish up with.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/972x648/screenshot_2021_05_28_french_casa__418c7f2b23882ed14dbf0ce48 3cd18d9335bbe3c.png
Photo Credit Stonefaction.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x683/atlas_901b04832963c3616bf6bb273473f10ca6044f96.jpg
Photo Credit Stonefaction.

Incidentally manufactured in Seville.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/972x648/screenshot_2021_05_28_dundee_airport_8d045839506e05cebc7fe42 c23243bb89dbb5127.png
Photo Credit Wallace Shackleton.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x655/1388873_large_dove_63686e1042393fb9c9b8e26d220e76b186ff40f5. jpg
1966 - Operated a Feeder Service for a short period. Aerodrome was grassed at that time. Photo credit Steve Ryle with thanks.

Max Tow has declared OH.

Asturias56

7th Jun 2021, 08:41

"Asturias I really thought you were going to nail it "........................... went down the wrong rabbit hole........................... :ouch: good challenge tho!

Allan Lupton

7th Jun 2021, 09:03

OUAQUKGF Ops

7th Jun 2021, 11:47

Thank you Allan - the poetry of William McGonagall - I resisted the temptation to use him as a clue thinking that Marmalade was bad enough !

Asturias56

7th Jun 2021, 17:45

That's the "new" bridge in the picture - I've always thought it looked a bit dodgy as well................

Asturias56

7th Jun 2021, 17:52

here's one to be getting on with...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/959x641/picture1_cceeb283c8db1893f8101246331beeb7e56c6aa4.jpg

OUAQUKGF Ops

7th Jun 2021, 18:06

Is it one of the air strips on Malta ?

Asturias56

7th Jun 2021, 21:25

No - but men doing their best in tough conditions.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/210x471/2021_06_07_134416_35b2a592d1394dcbd808cfec26d60bf8ef183c09.j pg

not sure just how old this airport is but still in use.......

Self loading bear

7th Jun 2021, 22:10

not sure just how old this airport is but still in use.......

at least since 1926.

Asturias56

8th Jun 2021, 07:24

Then thou knowest more than I Bear!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/254x353/2021_06_07_134102_a12a85c6b91ceb864cd8e9bbe616b658d454d2db.j pg

Self loading bear

8th Jun 2021, 10:58

Then thou knowest more than I Bear!

The Map I found is from 1926

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1360x516/5d99adbd_620f_474c_8f3b_5595b8fc0bab_e8a76b7133da806d2707deb 25e81c27f7172e5ac.jpeg

Asturias56

9th Jun 2021, 07:43

Spot on! Quite an amazing place aircraft
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/636x289/2021_06_07_134827_3baacad0beb886123d69541984c3320ccc528bec.j pg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/293x94/2021_06_07_134912_1786b3a701fc9f0e1c45a73bd0668af576de4606.j pg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/190x172/2021_06_07_134214_b7a81f14eb38105246f092f459642374a0c41651.j pg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/742x576/2021_06_07_133940_dcae934700b71da3d75c358fa41667cca7b9a597.j pg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/232x253/2021_06_07_134515_9ae13c6e0d05c616abf73b9d576ef04c545ea965.j pg
wise - Russian's working on Spitfires, all sorts of long haul flights as well

Self loading bear

9th Jun 2021, 21:10

Thanks Asturias!
I intended to post as an additional clue but did not notice that my first blurr of the title was apparently not saved.
The refinery was built in 1909 but the oil business really took off some years later.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1271x479/5d945beb_fc9a_457b_8ef1_0c2a6c11b47b_5d443c0631475fcc7888a36 f896c55abc718c247.jpeg

Now this international/private helicopter spot:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/454x233/6fa02af9_00dd_419b_bc67_c89394761af9_75719b7d20345cb4016d2a2 b128b8b2020429a86.jpeg

Asturias56

10th Jun 2021, 08:03

Blue skies, possibly a rather stylish wall at the back, very carefully trimmed grass edges - maybe Europe Bear?

And a statue off to the left - is this someone with an aviation connection?

sycamore

10th Jun 2021, 10:22

Landing fees must be `sky-high` there....

Self loading bear

11th Jun 2021, 06:37

The stylish wall from the other side.
The statue has nothing to do with aviation.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/677x366/70ec9440_4772_4905_ad6b_e82e0cf6bca3_6eb821331ba56fca6e12a03 839eca8c156939a89.jpeg

I think sycamore knows...

ea200

11th Jun 2021, 08:27

That's the Vatican City pad.

Self loading bear

11th Jun 2021, 10:51

That's the Vatican City pad.

Exactly!
An elevated pad once you are over the wall.

You have control

ea200

11th Jun 2021, 10:59

Thanks Bear. Thought it looked Italian from your first picture, then recognised the architecture from the second. Walked past there a few times.
Let's try this one:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/300x168/images_00cf70186dbbcbe4abc09d0ef103d30526bc623e.jpg

Asturias56

11th Jun 2021, 11:37

England's Green and Pleasant Land?

OUAQUKGF Ops

11th Jun 2021, 13:39

Stoke by Nayland ?

dixi188

11th Jun 2021, 15:45

Is the airstrip in a shallow valley or is it a trick of the camera lens?

ea200

12th Jun 2021, 11:31

OUAQUKGF is near enough. It is actually nearest to the village of Nayland and is known as such, but also as Hill Farm. Surprised it has not featured before but it is not on the Wiki. Good place to practice for your mountain rating. Have checked out a few people for landing there.

As regards the picture, although the ground does rise on either side of the runway it is not as obvious as the camera seems to make it.

OUAQUKGF has control.

OUAQUKGF Ops

12th Jun 2021, 11:53

Thanks ea200 bit of a fluke but somewhere in the dusty recesses of my old head I recalled watching this video...... Superb country-side of The Stour Valley.

Will have to be OH !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AADxdlnNsf4

OPEN HOUSE

Asturias56

13th Jun 2021, 12:04

A lot of my pictures of this place show it to be cloudy but it can be very sunny and warm here

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/247x231/2021_06_13_125032_763d8a7e8bb8abb9d16a1bd2244fff2f0dcecb9c.j pg

ea200

13th Jun 2021, 12:30

The obstructions and portable fire fighting suggest it may be used for non-aviation purposes. Motor sports or record setting maybe. Long shot but its flat enough to be Elvington.

sycamore

13th Jun 2021, 14:16

Or maybe Bedford...?

Self loading bear

13th Jun 2021, 15:32

The obstructions and portable fire fighting suggest it may be used for non-aviation purposes. Motor sports or record setting maybe. Long shot but its flat enough to be Elvington.

moe helicopter operations?

Asturias56

13th Jun 2021, 17:43

They do operate helicopters from here but it has a long runway - it's labeled "International" but I think that that aspect is mainly freight. The military also operate there. It's not in the UK

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/610x218/2021_06_13_125725_eef2f833e79e502b1f040509ecfaf45aab3b2a0f.j pg

Duchess_Driver

13th Jun 2021, 18:33

Challons Vatry, LFOK? Always sunny on a non-flying day. Low overcast when work to be done!!!

Asturias56

14th Jun 2021, 07:43

No, although the scenery isn't too dissimilar (at least in the photo I posted). I've had a lot of bother finding out any history on this challenge - I suspect it's over 50 or 60 years old but no old pictures anywhere

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/662x294/2021_06_13_130121_e3117248975da4b6a52f4556835c10ae95492847.j pg

jensdad

14th Jun 2021, 16:40

Hi Asturias, the scenery's a bit reminiscent of Castile. Could it be Badajoz?

Asturias56

15th Jun 2021, 08:05

It does like like bits of Spain but I'm afraid not - perhaps further east?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/355x323/2021_06_13_130059_8ff2042acd034f0ec49425cd6114fe80237fb365.j pg

jensdad

17th Jun 2021, 23:02

It does like like bits of Spain but I'm afraid not - perhaps further east?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/355x323/2021_06_13_130059_8ff2042acd034f0ec49425cd6114fe80237fb365.j pg
Oops, sorry for the delay in replying. I know Corlu, between Istanbul and the Bulgarian border, has a bit of freight traffic. Not sure about the helicopters though... Plus I suspect it's a bit more mountainous around there, so I'm probably wrong :)

Asturias56

18th Jun 2021, 08:30

You are in the right sort of area and on the correct continent but still quite aways away.

This place claims to be International but as I think I said its probably only freight that's international.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/812x479/2021_06_13_130039_166fbf750fb9e58369e14753ec04c49671b4ee03.j pg

Asturias56

19th Jun 2021, 07:56

Another dull day...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/434x362/2021_06_13_125051_9b7f716527b363eab87b4aa108b3d46c5ccafd13.j pg

jensdad

20th Jun 2021, 00:37

Another dull day...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/434x362/2021_06_13_125051_9b7f716527b363eab87b4aa108b3d46c5ccafd13.j pg
You're not getting many takers on this one Asturias :) I'll have another punt at Nis, Serbia. Don't know much about the place except that I don't think there's much in the way of passenger traffic, but I've seen a video of an IL62 freighter doing an extremely late take-off there!

Asturias56

20th Jun 2021, 08:01

I know - you're sort of getting close (-ish) - I'm not sure if we've ever had a challenge from this country TBH - It's not a "destination" for anyone I know

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/724x504/2021_06_13_125001_c7b29b7f75ff52f81f473e8c41abb3ebf7ab77db.j pg

Self loading bear

20th Jun 2021, 09:51

Asturias,

As I have the latest update of the database I have a small advantage on the other contestants.
I will therefore not post my answer (yet)
I can confirm this country is not in the database.
For that sake everybody can also use the list of W-A mk3.

Looks like you and I have the same idea:
Post challenges of countries not yet featured before.
(See Vatican City)
In Europe we still have 3 or 4 left.

I am working on getting the updated list posted but for the moment this only seems feasible via a link to a URL (cloud server). I am not aware I have such cloud server. If somebody knows how or is willing to do for me then please send PM.

ea200

20th Jun 2021, 11:03

Moldova, Markuleshty I think.

Asturias56

20th Jun 2021, 12:54

It is indeed Markuleshty at Lunga in Moldova!! the wine is good....................

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/394x308/2021_06_13_125602_9cb43e31a7f3098add73b663f7d14288810e3dae.j pg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/434x362/2021_06_13_125906_0c61514ed7b70c6e390ba2b5d53f662d025ce6e6.j pg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/211x349/2021_06_13_125940_7db70229d367f860407066b90708b97c6e80e356.j pg

ea200

20th Jun 2021, 15:39

Thanks Asturias. OH I'm afraid.

mgahan

21st Jun 2021, 00:24

A quick one I think to follow the previous. Moldova indeed!
Back to the Pacific but be wary of the
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1387x913/heron_1975_9bc167db5486de09653a9b80a0c7567b7856a527.jpg
obvious clue.

descol

21st Jun 2021, 06:21

Fiji Air - Heron - maybe at Rotuma ?

Asturias56

21st Jun 2021, 07:29

Doesn't look like Tonga - maybe Kiribati or Tuvalu?

mgahan

21st Jun 2021, 21:06

Asturias has saved me from two tasks this morning: telling Descol it is not Rotuma and posting the clue about the second degree link to Weary Dunlop.

MJG

descol

22nd Jun 2021, 05:37

Opening of Mareki Airport - North of Tarawa in 1975
Open House if correct

mgahan

22nd Jun 2021, 06:31

Descol has it with Marekei.
The picture popped up in a search for some historical information this week on the runway construction. Here's what it looks' like these days.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1198x899/09_from_touchdown_22_jan_21_d55ddbdbe1e747e4e12dcd1633d01f9e b99dd514.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1198x899/marakei_apron_and_termiinal_22_jan_21_0dee9729308e0ec58402a0 3fdfb83c51b93074d8.jpg
. Open House declared.

OUAQUKGF Ops

22nd Jun 2021, 16:02

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/190x392/tower_2__4f5ef4ab925a3fa3ae9864d8debe3e28c801d13c.jpg

Self loading bear

22nd Jun 2021, 19:17

Update of the Which Aerodrome challenge list can be found as .zip in the attachment

I am busy with clearing up some country data from some years back.
This will have to do for the moment.

If there is somebody who can manage to attach this file to the Wiki post at the top , please do so.

Best regards SLB

OUAQUKGF Ops

22nd Jun 2021, 21:30

Bear - Thank you for all your work ! I'm afraid I'm a confirmed 'Flat Earther' I can't help you with the attachment........

OUAQUKGF Ops

22nd Jun 2021, 21:33

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1336x638/screenshot_2021_06_14_at_14_09_05_google_maps_748d7725fde29a 12951f357e852491134cce8602.png
Europe but not part of 'The Union'

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 07:59

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/826x900/memorial_2__8b54fa73d889b00d375cad709018290fa23a0dd7.jpg

Asturias56

23rd Jun 2021, 08:39

WW2 memorial?

Uk??

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 11:16

War Memorial not in UK but in geographical Western Europe. If you find it, it will give you good clue........re-read #133

Asturias56

23rd Jun 2021, 13:28

Western Europe non EU non UK - that means Switzerland, The Vatican, Iceland or Norway

Its not the Vatican (unless they've expanded recently) so lets try Norway?

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 13:32

Not Eastern Europe........

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 13:36

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x480/sabres__3bfe742a332a0437b6aa7e2260916da3dff7d3be.jpg

The first F86s to deploy in Britain arrived at Shepherd's Grove August 1951. (81st Fighter Bomber Group)

Asturias56

23rd Jun 2021, 14:54

I asked if it was Norway?

By "not part of the Union" are we talking the EU/ and if so then or now?

Tails look a bit like the 318th FIS but I don't think they ever served in W Europe

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 15:25

Sorry Old Boy I took it for granted that you would search in Norway for the WW11 Memorial. So please do......... With regards to The EU we are talking about the present as it did not exist (indeed it was just the opposite) in the period concerned. We are looking for what is now a derelict aerodrome.

ea200

23rd Jun 2021, 15:55

I know where the memorial is and the related history. What I can't do is find any airfield around there that fits the bill. There must be some clue that I'm overlooking. Will think about your latest post though. Once I tracked down the location I found your photo of the memorial.

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 16:02

The aerodrome is some 670 miles (approx) SSW of the memorial.. In a non-EU Country. I must go and mow the lawn. Good Luck Both !

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/456x623/joe_williams_21e283678892278f6ea24fd7ed408066c5eec73c.jpg

teusje

23rd Jun 2021, 16:46

RAF Shepherds Grove.
Open House if correct please.

ea200

23rd Jun 2021, 17:58

Could not track down the flight departure point from the memorial end. But I have now.

OUAQUKGF Ops

23rd Jun 2021, 18:12

Well done Teusje Shepherd's Grove, Suffolk it is - as depicted in first two images. Memorial to Crew of Stirling LK332 299 Squadron Flt Lt Ranulf Trevor- Roper and Crew shot down over Vierli near Vegarshei Norway night of March 30/31st 1945, based Shepherd's Grove. Three other Stirlings on SOE supply flights from Shepherd's Grove to Norway were lost that night described as Brilliant, Cloudless and Moonlit.
LJ888 196 Squadron Flt Sgt Catterall and Crew shot down over Arendal Norway. LK197 196 Squadron Pilot Officer Campbell and Crew Disappeared. PK225 299 Squadron Flt Lt Anderson and Crew Disappeared. 196 and 299 Squadrons of 38 Group based at Shepherds Grove throughout most of 1945. Special Duties Missions flown included Operation Varsity commencing March 24th 1945 and Operation Amherst April 7th -8th 1945. Teusje has declared Open House.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x515/3820173_196_squadron_stirling_c8ccb94f4b0051efcd840a7f1b9bfb c5a036cd02.jpg
Flt Lt Charles King RAAF (left) and crew 196 Squadron at Shepherd's Grove c January 1945. Note glider tow bar aft of tail wheels.
Photo credit Australian War Memorial.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/798x525/screenshot_2021_06_23_at_15_55_25_facebook_1f5cc9c5162cc7a0d 7861b6c17c3fc5c92e5d88d.png
Members of 3 SAS and crew of 'Bitter Sweet' of 299 Squadron at Shepherd's Grove on the eve of Operation Amherst.
Photo Credit Wethersfield Airfield Museum.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x800/59dcf79538a49_shepherdsgrove02_jpg_bd7e9c11ba93e9ea7ba6f4de5 3fb3896_b3993efa61c68d2f340237240d11c64d71a54a9f.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/20070203023041/http://www.century20war.co.uk/page19.html

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/900x765/screenshot_2021_06_14_at_14_18_05_google_maps_resize_ec83990 b1d6a19f9ea2cee40f4173cdec69acacf.png
Still visible, echoes of The Cold War..........

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/419x700/rickettshw_grave4_opt_01d6459eca9e74c2498acc359c7971f1ba374d 38.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/419x700/rickettshw_grave3_opt_a8b7118bfc7e89fae9821541a804ba498210b2 ba.jpg
Photo Credits Julie K McManus

Noyade

24th Jun 2021, 02:25

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x577/scan0569_4aa12a7419d481380740f0d89687854b2891df3d.jpg

Asturias56

24th Jun 2021, 07:51

Hmm - all the rubber at one end,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, big hill just off the top of the picture?

And is that a sports ground lower left?

jensdad

24th Jun 2021, 21:48

Layout looks familiar. Is that Sarajevo?

Noyade

25th Jun 2021, 01:28

Is that Sarajevo?

Indeed it is.Taken from a C-130 during Operation Provide Promise.
All yours. :ok:

jensdad

25th Jun 2021, 16:42

Thank you Noyade. I've only ever seen Sarajevo a couple of times from 30-odd thousand feet :)
I've got a nice photo for you all but unfortunately my left click isn't working, meaning I can't crop out any incriminating evidence.
Open House.

Asturias56

26th Jun 2021, 13:50

Doubt this will last long................
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/252x231/2021_06_21_171840_0c18ddaadb732a26e0a4de368ac4b2a553493c08.j pg

albatross

27th Jun 2021, 01:13

Akron Ohio?
OH if correct.

Asturias56

27th Jun 2021, 10:05

Long way from Ohio

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/232x228/2021_06_21_172755_d1ab7a189f1ff8b1a4e23fc2bed03eaa7139ee6d.j pg

Asturias56

28th Jun 2021, 08:03

No longer in use

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/247x310/2021_06_21_171825_a22e5a1ea107a13ce5e4101c11fd08f39dff1b91.j pg

old,not bold

28th Jun 2021, 16:27

Reminds me of a BoB Open day at RAF Waterbeach in 1951, to which I cycled from Cambridge as a 10-year old because I loved aeroplanes; unfortunately the Meteor 4-ship aerobatic display team had a collision during a team roll, with fatal consequences. It was my first, but not last, lesson that aircraft will bite. Those 4 don't look like Meteors, though, so it's a long shot.

sycamore

28th Jun 2021, 20:38

J-Ps.......

OUAQUKGF Ops

28th Jun 2021, 21:07

Weston-Super-Mare ?

Self loading bear

28th Jun 2021, 22:19

Goodyear blimp control tower gives a hit on
RAF Usworth Sunderland

Asturias56

29th Jun 2021, 15:32

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/555x410/2021_06_21_171758_f30740bb4b8769b13ea1aa2dcae84bcde83bffea.j pg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/291x203/2021_06_21_172156_2dfbf0f1310193d4d5a4d3580328095605a74a6e.j pg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/167x101/2021_06_21_171926_33684e4ed6551bb088d223e4710f9d49a00516a6.j pg
I'm out tonight - post vaccination life!!

As ever Bear is correct - Sunderland as was, Nissan as is

Self loading bear

29th Jun 2021, 17:54

Thanks Asturias!
This one is not yet on the list.
Its country is on the list

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/913x749/ae2d30fc_a7b8_4521_bc8b_7f7ec2e148fb_967e602e5e21654380e5ca5 8e0d64518ff001fd9.jpeg

OUAQUKGF Ops

29th Jun 2021, 18:36

Looks like Van Gogh here has been very busy on that SAS Convair (I think it's a 440) but where are we? Definitely not Arles.

OUAQUKGF Ops

29th Jun 2021, 19:02

Perhaps we are at Norrkoping Sweden ?

jensdad

29th Jun 2021, 20:08

I know that Billund had a viewing area right in front of the terminal where there was just a little fence separating the public from the apron. Them were the days. Is it said airport?

Self loading bear

29th Jun 2021, 21:03

Billund is on the list
Arles and Norkoping not yet, (thanks for the tip)

As I have still both my ears and do not pursue a painting career I have cleared most of my doodling:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x796/c7d87acd_506a_4496_aacf_941823a6d21a_8a2c83fe290352b5cc9045d 478371fab6b5ed129.jpeg

OUAQUKGF Ops

29th Jun 2021, 21:12

Bornholm then - or is that A Pickled Red Herring ?

Self loading bear

30th Jun 2021, 17:26

Bornholm then - or is that A Pickled Red Herring ?

It is indeed Bornholm
Nyrogede Bornholmere are fresh smoked herring.
Hollandse Nieuwe are new Dutch pickled herring.
How smoked or pickled herrings can be new or fresh, I don’t know.

Looking forward to your next photo quest

OUAQUKGF Ops

30th Jun 2021, 18:12

Thanks Bear. Lovely nostalgic Photograph. Many moons ago I once flew in something similar from Copenhagen to Esbjerg. I don't want to hog the Forum and if old Vincent hadn't suddenly left that clue on his easel I would have been none the wiser. Time to give somebody else a chance - so it's Open House and I'll take a back seat for a few weeks......

teusje

1st Jul 2021, 14:59

Once upon a time, there was a airfield in this neighbourhood..

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/489x480/6_59dacd4455fe10da0fd868e7ef36a3f53625e146.jpg

Asturias56

2nd Jul 2021, 07:48

Assuming north is at the top the trees top right indicate very long shadows for mid morning - even in a northern winter

Are we in Europe?

teusje

2nd Jul 2021, 11:00

No, it's a long way from Europe.
Here's the same neighbourhood, several decades earlier.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x396/5_c6fedd124c84d424282d1f0f945f73ef72dccb26.jpg

Asturias56

2nd Jul 2021, 12:20

not much traffic on the big avenue........... no big sports fields & shortage of swimming pools suggests it's not USA - Japan perhaps?

teusje

2nd Jul 2021, 14:56

Well actually, it is the USA.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x401/4_fd7879bf459a5cd203a41e4862a4e21727076678.jpg

Asturias56

2nd Jul 2021, 15:35

Ah well - there goes the scientific approach

It might be Hamilton Field N of San Francisco but doesn't look quite right.............

teusje

2nd Jul 2021, 18:29

No, not Hamilton Field.

teusje

3rd Jul 2021, 07:48

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x411/1_7f4ef1794c18feb178bb1cb5244fd8482953549e.jpg

Asturias56

3rd Jul 2021, 12:29

good job it was raining this morning - I'd never realised the P-61's operated from so many places in the USA. Bit easier when I figured out it was a P-47 in #173

I think it's Kipapa on Oahu, Hawaii??

teusje

3rd Jul 2021, 14:32

You got it, Asturias, over to you.

Asturias56

4th Jul 2021, 07:59

Here's one quite a long way from Hawaii
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/458x274/2021_06_29_161416_1739800ce7fa22fb9b2230a6524dd26c46529073.j pg

teusje

4th Jul 2021, 18:21

Just a stab in the dark, but could it be Cascais, Portugal?

Asturias56

5th Jul 2021, 07:35

No - but right sort of thinking - not a million miles away..............

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/203x188/2021_06_29_161203_6c52b552b487223342d6dada7e4bf0f0be5121b1.j pg

jensdad

6th Jul 2021, 01:19

Another stab in the dark... Evora?

Asturias56

6th Jul 2021, 08:22

No - we're not in Portugual

Its a relatively new airfield I think - limited international connections but reasonably busy

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/373x418/2021_06_29_161535_739fefd8a267184b08bd960ad2267138893e3818.j pg

asw28-866

6th Jul 2021, 21:14

Turkish Airlines A330 TC-JOG “Troy” if that helps?

Self loading bear

6th Jul 2021, 21:19

Turkish Airlines A330-300 destination.

jensdad

7th Jul 2021, 00:03

If TC-JOG were a freighter I was going to have a go at Vitoria-Gasteiz. But it isn't, so I'll have another even wilder stab in the dark at Nouakchott?

Asturias56

7th Jul 2021, 07:33

Vitoria is closer than Nouakchott.......................

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/294x362/2021_06_29_161400_4e4757179bfe8a98230dad3cd550fcf36a3675ab.j pg

Asturias56

7th Jul 2021, 14:37

Here's a pic taken a few years back.............

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/989x619/2021_07_07_084021_bf22cb01e12431b1a2ef14997d4fb7964c7ed1e4.j pg

Duchess_Driver

7th Jul 2021, 15:59

Putting two and two together and possibly getting 5….

Turkish route map and Sri Lankan FMA Pucara leads me to Colombo Ratmalana?

Asturias56

7th Jul 2021, 16:52

Well it isn't Sri Lankan but it IS a Pucara (to my amazement - never did find out why it was there)

My answer above "Vitoria is closer than Nouakchott......................." applies in spades I'm afraid to Columbo. I'm not sure this is a regular Turkish destination - possibly a one-off

Self loading bear

7th Jul 2021, 18:38

Uruguayan Pucaras have visited Brazil Natal airforce base.
(2010)
Are we in Brazil?

Asturias56

8th Jul 2021, 07:54

No - Brazil is even further away The Pucara picture isn't recent

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/684x364/2021_06_29_160947_04d994472aca9cb365082c6ce528957cf3d49458.j pg

Asturias56

9th Jul 2021, 08:05

IF the clue "Vitoria is closer than Nouakchott......................." then it's about 3050 kms from one to the other. Halfway is about 1500kms

therefore the challenge is within a circle of radius 1500 kms centred on Vitoria

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/704x487/2021_07_07_083944_8b11b41192d33e5db0b6ee84d2521e6ef61da81d.j pg

siftydog

9th Jul 2021, 20:36

Are we in Spain?

Asturias56

10th Jul 2021, 07:53

Yes - this is the Kingdom of Spain

siftydog

10th Jul 2021, 10:44

Hmmm, Kingdom of Spain… entonces Melilla?

jensdad

11th Jul 2021, 00:03

Hmmm, Kingdom of Spain… entonces Melilla?
The Google Earth image looks like it, but we'll have to wait for Asturianu to confirm of course. I did consider Melilla and Ceuta (that just has a heliport apparently) but the A330 put me off - that must have been right on limits if it is indeed Melilla (1433m of runway according to Wiki)?

siftydog

11th Jul 2021, 07:02

Yes, I had a bit of trouble reconciling the A330 with that runway. Only other possibility I could think of was one of the newer Spanish airports like Castillo part developed, but the tarmac looks more weathered than that.

Asturias56

11th Jul 2021, 08:12

It's definitely Melilla - I though the "kingdom of Spain " was about as far as I could go and still say on the right side of the truth.......... Sifty Dog has the controls

They've operated some quite large aircraft in there occasionally. Iberia have used A330-200's on some flights from Madrid in the past (maybe even as late as last year) - obviously NOT at max weight.

Strange place.........
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/166x279/2021_06_29_160905_bb27eddeb256726c629bd5a1f1688fbd1eef89ee.j pg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/224x212/2021_06_29_161148_ca693972b89de611d07bae7702fbb28b33a2b484.j pg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/944x486/2021_07_07_083651_329163de03727fdd81079d3c734eb66ff5233d70.j pg

siftydog

11th Jul 2021, 12:44

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1181x778/screenshot_2021_07_11_134228_bb30bf821b942701c19f0d8a1927d5a d27666567.png
Not a water aerodrome, but adjacent to a land aerodrome both then and now.

siftydog

11th Jul 2021, 12:47

It'll be an absolute tinker without something to get the ball rolling; 1967 and Antipodal.

Shackman

11th Jul 2021, 14:18

Whenuapai, NZ. (I have an almost identical picture from 1970)

Self loading bear

11th Jul 2021, 15:12

It'll be an absolute tinker without something to get the ball rolling; 1967 and Antipodal.

The P of Porcupine was sufficient for me.
Happy searching!

jensdad

11th Jul 2021, 23:54

They've operated some quite large aircraft in there occasionally. Iberia have used A330-200's on some flights from Madrid in the past (maybe even as late as last year) - obviously NOT at max weight.

Strange place.........
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/166x279/2021_06_29_160905_bb27eddeb256726c629bd5a1f1688fbd1eef89ee.j pg

It sounds a bit strange indeed. One of the places on my very long list that I feel I need to visit at some stage. Great challenge!

Asturias56

12th Jul 2021, 07:57

"It'll be an absolute tinker without something to get the ball rolling;"

Sifty - most of the regulars on here LOVE an absolute stinker....................... all teh easy ones have been done. I think the latest list published by Bear has over 3400 challenges - some are duplicated of course but it's quite percentage of the worlds airfields (and the Pope's Helipad) already been through the mill.

siftydog

12th Jul 2021, 11:36

Good guess but not Whenuapai Shackman. Probably time for a clue; This was the largest aircraft type to provide a scheduled service and they were severely performance limited at that. (Aircraft depicted is not at challenge location).
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/881x405/screenshot_2021_07_12_123105_8f6db24d2b1a70c84af29c3b3c90513 fbbb00603.png

Asturias56

12th Jul 2021, 12:26

Norfolk Island?

jensdad

13th Jul 2021, 04:13

I'll have a shot at another place I'd love to visit, Chatham Island. Wikipedia tells me that the airfield is next to a lagoon, and that the RNZAF once had Sunderlands based there...

lauriebe

13th Jul 2021, 05:04

Could it be Whangarei?

OH if correct.

Self loading bear

13th Jul 2021, 17:19

Could it be Whangarei?

OH if correct.
I thought the same

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/736x839/fc3bd8ed_f599_44fe_aba3_b3f76faf7523_d789211ac029c3187a923de eb5655563640e4883.jpeg

siftydog

13th Jul 2021, 20:48

Lauriebe gets it with Onerahi, Whangarei. SLB has the back story. NZ4114 was struck off charge in Feb 1967; the venerable Sunderlands haven been replaced with the thoroughly modern Lockheed P3 onions.

OH

jensdad

14th Jul 2021, 18:36

None of the historic airfield is on this photograph; this is the memorial associated with it. The actual airfield site was more or less directly behind me when I took the pic. Not entirely sure how far behind - I'm not local to this locality...
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/494x474/wheresthis_640x502__ee7458db80f7a4151a349cf26b96bf7e25d36db6 .jpg

Get me some traffic

14th Jul 2021, 21:18

Sutton Bridge. OH if correct. River Nene? Name of a jet engine.

jensdad

16th Jul 2021, 01:54

Apologies for the delay in responding.
Yes indeed, it is RAF Sutton Bridge, a former training base next to the River Nene in Lincolnshire, UK. I didn't actually know there had been an airfield there - I just stopped to take a photo of the Crosskeys Bridge while driving back from Norfolk in May, and came across the memorial next to the road. I nearly ended up in the Nene, the grass on that embankment gets very slippy when it's been raining.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x640/2021_norfolk_163_copy_480x640__b5ca37e15bf3afe400d8a472aa421 b3519bc431c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x480/2021_norfolk_164_copy_640x480__bc355a01868fcfc26fb9d904f61c0 227b2833941.jpg
Get me some traffic has control.

Get me some traffic

16th Jul 2021, 12:59

OH I'm afraid.

siftydog

16th Jul 2021, 19:59

OH… OK, A bit unconventional, but perhaps as a stocking filler someone can crack the location of the photo I left on post 206.

shouldn’t last too long.

Sifty

Asturias56

18th Jul 2021, 08:51

Is it on the South Island?

siftydog

18th Jul 2021, 12:03

Te Wai Pounamu it is.

Asturias56

18th Jul 2021, 13:07

Lo siento, No hablo Maori

might be Invercargill?

siftydog

18th Jul 2021, 14:37

Too hilly for Invercargill Asturias. You’ll have to go north, but no further than 40’30secs south.

lauriebe

19th Jul 2021, 02:32

Could it be Hōkitika?

siftydog

19th Jul 2021, 07:52

Not Hokie (as the local folk would have it) Lauriebe.

Definitely time for a clue: The runway is / was too short to permit Viscount services, and at a nearby art gallery one keeps thinking of Wuthering Heights (and getting sloshed on Pinot Noir of course - this is NZ!).

lauriebe

19th Jul 2021, 08:59

Could it be Nelson Airport? Quite a short runway there.

It also seems to be in a pinot noir area and, after looking around the interweb, there is a Bronte Gallery nearby.

Forgot to add OH if correct.

siftydog

19th Jul 2021, 12:10

NZNS Nelson it is. Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson and 1st Duke of Bronte.

The apron and terminal have been substantially reconfigured since this photo was taken in 1970. I'm not sure if the attractive white park bench on the left of the shot was the business lounge or not...

OH declared.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1187x717/screenshot_2021_07_19_130358_db3869d48c7e21c75701fbceb309861 97f44ec50.png

mgahan

20th Jul 2021, 02:46

Sadly this runway is no longer used for aircraft but great food stalls nearby and it had an important role in the past.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x362/open_house_intro_2c270ba4fb044a30501383742ef1ae8e10b68694.jp g

Checklist Charlie

20th Jul 2021, 05:46

Ross Smith Drive in Parap, Darwin.
Was the original runway in Darwin before the current airfield was constructed.
There is a windsock in a little park at the South East end.
OH as I cant get at any of my pics at present.

CC

CoodaShooda

20th Jul 2021, 11:09

It’s Ross Smith Avenue, rather than Drive. But you’re right with all the rest. Probably the only aerodrome I had a chance of identifying.

The old Qantas hangar is still in position but used as a motor museum.

mgahan

20th Jul 2021, 21:22

And here is a picture of the good old days..

Many years ago I was walking to the Parap Markets for breakfast (a known hangover cure in those days) by a (then) young friend with whom I had imbibed the evening before. As we walked along the road I looked up and saw the old hanger and realised we were walking along an old runway.. One of many fond memories of Darwin from the 1980's.

CC has it and has declared Open House.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/283x178/open_hoouse__928c0b83924f009ef2d70eb4d9debfb4b0f2601f.jpg
MJG

Asturias56

22nd Jul 2021, 08:22

This one is quite busty but not all that well known

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/282x193/2021_07_12_181050_bd19ee80a783323d9dc7f984456b7241fa0ac988.j pg

chevvron

22nd Jul 2021, 08:40

This one is quite busty but not all that well known

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/282x193/2021_07_12_181050_bd19ee80a783323d9dc7f984456b7241fa0ac988.j pg
I like it when they're 'quite' busty.

Asturias56

22nd Jul 2021, 14:38

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whoops .......... I cannot comment

Asturias56

23rd Jul 2021, 08:29

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/212x197/2021_07_12_180910_8f240ee8b2b95c9ed173d93782da96347e6786ba.j pg

sycamore

23rd Jul 2021, 11:41

Malaysia...?

Asturias56

23rd Jul 2021, 14:15

Good thinking - but a long way from Malaysia

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/155x232/2021_07_12_180848_66e5015bbccd87d0d6c4db62b46792e04131c1d8.j pg

teusje

24th Jul 2021, 09:54

Aktau, Kazachstan?

Asturias56

24th Jul 2021, 15:40

It's also a long way from Kazakhstan

Joint civilian military - internal flights year round, some seasonal international traffic

Asturias56

25th Jul 2021, 08:31

A better view

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/201x181/2021_07_12_181023_8fe29bffbda00719ba4df1526f8822b1c3114d2c.j pg

Self loading bear

26th Jul 2021, 22:15

Could be an Azerbeidzjani MiG-29.

Asturias56

27th Jul 2021, 06:28

It might be but that's no big help with the challenge Bear..............

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/493x327/2021_07_12_181851_312c73c67e97efab5ad738006950b99eff8cf8c5.j pg

Self loading bear

29th Jul 2021, 20:48

It might be but that's no big help with the challenge Bear..............

Actualy it did help.
Azeri MiG-29 participated in Exercise Anatolian Eagle from Konya Air base Turkey.
I just found a matching interior photo:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/731x1040/b04ebc47_ddfe_4bea_a65c_171c7ab81d4a_108a6527f425790dab33b5b 2493c2c83919a281e.jpeg

Asturias56

30th Jul 2021, 15:23

Well its not quite 24 hours but I'm on the road and comms are poor

Bear has it with Konya - quite a big place but not well known outside Turkey

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/650x432/1271710_649_n_bd6b31333831aa8878f23be329217164fd8df2b0.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/328x348/2021_07_12_181558_0a7108fd251f5ca3d991aecc0899469f3784348b.j pg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/224x277/2021_07_12_180945_1057127df94fe5b84dc3c9548e006db5977ddbbd.j pg