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ced0802
8th May 2021, 12:43
Hello guys,

Has anyone had to experience this type of validation allowing us to fly in Europe with a Third country (non EU) PPL? If so, was it a long process to obtain it?
I have heard it is possible to have an authorization to fly for about 1 year in EASA.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

Denti
8th May 2021, 13:02
There is a ruleset for that, no idea how hard it is and how long it takes.

See here (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32020R0723&from=EN#d1e238-1-1).

ced0802
8th May 2021, 13:23
Thanks a lot for the link:ok:
So If I understood well I would need to pass 2 theory exams & have at least 100H of flight in order to fly for fun in Europe :*

B2N2
8th May 2021, 14:00
Depending which non-EU country we are talking about adding an instrument rating is a very sensible way at to add 45-50 hrs to your logbook.
Makes you a safer pilot too.

ced0802
8th May 2021, 14:48
Thanks for your feedback. That would be in that case in France.

selfin
8th May 2021, 15:17
Validations are normally valid for a year with the option to extend by a further year under limited circumstances.

There's a separate validation available for non-commercial flying for up to 28 days per calendar year, which is not subject to the one year time limit. This second validation requires an acclimatisation flight with an instructor rather than a skill test.

Thirdly under article 12(4) of the Aircrew Regulation the EU/EFTA states may accept third country licences for non-commercial activities without being subject to either of the above time limits, until 20 Jun 2022. A list of states applying the latter provision is provided by EASA in the file derogations from Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 at https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/regulations/opt-out-from-regulations

The application form for a French validation pursuant to art 12(4) still uses the old deadline of 20 Jun 2021. You can find it under the section Validation d’une licence étrangère—Licences privées at https://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/titres-aeronautiques-etrangers
- Validation à titre privé d'une licence conforme à l'OACI de pilote d'avion, d'hélicoptère, de planeur ou de ballon délivrée par un Etat tiers à l'UE - 15iFormlic (pdf link (https://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/15iFormlic.pdf))

ced0802
8th May 2021, 18:37
Validations are normally valid for a year with the option to extend by a further year under limited circumstances.

There's a separate validation available for non-commercial flying for up to 28 days per calendar year, which is not subject to the one year time limit. This second validation requires an acclimatisation flight with an instructor rather than a skill test.

Thirdly under article 12(4) of the Aircrew Regulation the EU/EFTA states may accept third country licences for non-commercial activities without being subject to either of the above time limits, until 20 Jun 2022. A list of states applying the latter provision is provided by EASA in the file derogations from Regulation (EU) 1178/2011 at https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/regulations/opt-out-from-regulations

The application form for a French validation pursuant to art 12(4) still uses the old deadline of 20 Jun 2021. You can find it under the section Validation d’une licence étrangère—Licences privées at https://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/titres-aeronautiques-etrangers
- Validation à titre privé d'une licence conforme à l'OACI de pilote d'avion, d'hélicoptère, de planeur ou de ballon délivrée par un Etat tiers à l'UE - 15iFormlic (pdf link (https://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/15iFormlic.pdf))


A huge THANK YOU for taking the time to give such a detailled answer. I have indeed filled in this 15iformlic.
My only doubt now is whether I need 100 hrs time fly to obtain this validation...as if it is the case I am screwed.

nmarshal
22nd Jul 2021, 13:29
The French validation application form (with English translation) has now been updated and has an expiry date of 20/06/2022; its reference is now: 88i-Formlic