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JanetFlight
23rd Feb 2021, 00:27
Hi all...until now i keep this doubt and would kindly request if anyone here could give me some light about it.
Not a pilot anymore due health issues, neither flown in Pacific, (only Europe & Africa), but as a true aviation lover i still love it, and i cant find the answer here, so i will kindly wait any explanation.

According this ICAO Doc from 2019 there is a portion of Pacific Ocean with a "Ghost FIR" non-atribbuted no anyone (Pages 6 & 10)

https://www.icao.int/SAM/Documents/2019-SCM1/SCM_1%20Summary%20of%20Discussions.pdf

However according this aviation&intelligence services provider, ops.group, that portion of FIR at the same time belongs to Semi Independent Island Clipperton.

https://ops.group/blog/fsb-and-opsgroup-win-bid-to-control-1-8-million-km-area-of-pacific-airspace/

However if the island is uninhabited according Wiki, how do they manage to get a FIR, Control and even a CAA as per this:

DCA Clipperton: Home (http://dca.clipperton-gov.co/)
http://dca.clipperton-gov.co/files/AIC/AIC-A03-2018_ClippertonOceanic.pdf

Is this for real?
Who are behind the Clipperton CAA, ATC, FIR NPCX?
Where are the ATC'ers & CAA and physical buildings/installations?
Or is this a kind of Bogus stuff?

On their contacts the phone number starts with +951 wich Google says its South California.
DCA H.Q Building, Clipperton International Airport, Clipperton 11021, Clipperton http://dca.clipperton-gov.co/media/contacts/images/con_tel.png +951 533015 http://dca.clipperton-gov.co/media/contacts/images/con_fax.png +951 533016
http://dca.clipperton-gov.co/contact-us

However the phone numbers are the same as Myanmar CAA:
https://favt.gov.ru/dejatelnost-mezhdunarodnaja-dejatelnost-dvustoronnee-sotrudnichestvo-kontaktnaja-informacija?id=1558

Phone +951 533015 Fax +951 533016 (coincidence maybe)?

My apologies but until now as far and more i search, more doubtful i become...
Should i put this in Pacific PPrune subforum?

Tanx in advance...JF

jmmoric
16th Mar 2021, 10:46
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/573x415/fir_d7476e89c7c72e025f42a867b586fb05ad7995f4.jpg

Here is another one.