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airsound
26th Jan 2021, 19:57
The Armed Forces Bill is being introduced to the House of Commons today. A step forward, or paces backward?
https://www.forces.net/news/new-legislation-enshrine-armed-forces-covenant-law (https://www.forces.net/news/new-legislation-enshrine-armed-forces-covenant-law)

airsound

Asturias56
27th Jan 2021, 08:19
Virtue signalling on many of the issues I'm afraid - but probably some useful stuff in the tiding-up clauses on things like the Justice System

tucumseh
27th Jan 2021, 09:48
The important issue at present is to get it enshrined in law. Then one can look to enact and enforce the law, which is an even bigger battle. Both main parties (in England and Wales) have proposed this in the past, and both opposed it when in Opposition. This is indicative of the hurdles the gallant Mr Mercer MP has faced, and such is the current level of opposition he's a little pessimistic about getting it through the Lords. Who's pressing their buttons, given few understand the issues?

The very mention of John Spellar should be sufficient for Servicemen to support the Bill, regardless of how diluted it has become. He still owes an apology to families and to Parliament for his outright lies during the early Mull of Kintyre debates. It is an abomination that he still sits on the Defence Committee.

Thud_and_Blunder
27th Jan 2021, 10:48
The very mention of John Spellar should be sufficient for Servicemen to support the Bill, regardless of how diluted it has become. He still owes an apology to families and to Parliament for his outright lies during the early Mull of Kintyre debates. It is an abomination that he still sits on the Defence Committee.
...I wish this forum had a "like" button or equivalent; couldn't agree more.

Just This Once...
27th Jan 2021, 11:04
Even if it did come in to law in the most robust of manners it still would not change anything. There are numerous existing civilian & military laws, including ones that carry the punishment of imprisonment, that have been found to have been breached by members of the star chamber that lead to no action whatsoever. Civilian police give primacy to their military or MoD equivalents and the 4 police forces under MoD control simply do not start an investigations into any VSO or senior civil service personnel - even if they have evidential material. The Service Justice System is just for the little people and the little people have no influence on the lofty aims of this Bill.