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Corsairoz
7th Jan 2021, 15:30
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x871/sunderland_mr_5_nz4105_left_side_of_panel_1024x1024_5a0602aa d8fc415babf11d26e73f919b8d2633f2.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x696/sunderland_instrument_bfc401c41b392c76c64f2b715232273b34c5c1 15.jpg

Can anyone identify the instrument above? I work at SolentSky Museum in Southampton where we have a Sandringham VH-LVE. This is a derivation from the Sunderland. The instrument above with Red/Green sections, a horizonatlly oriented needle and marked IN/OUT with 2 markers on the Green section. On our aircraft, it is in the Engine Management section of the control panel.
Can anyone identify its use? Or does anyone have a better picture of one? Could it be the flap position indicator? But if so, why the red area?

Ours is missing, and I am seeking to create a mock up to go in its place. But it would be nice to know what it is.

Thanks
Corsairoz

DH106
7th Jan 2021, 15:37
Flap position indicator, since it appears to be next to what's left of a Flaps In/Out switch ?

tramontana
7th Jan 2021, 15:57
Cooling Flaps of some sort, Green band temp ok, Red requires cooling rather than Wing flaps I would hazard a guess as it is on the Engine Management side, admittedly they are normally called Gills although I am happy to be corrected.

V_2
7th Jan 2021, 16:26
Flap position indicator, since it appears to be next to what's left of a Flaps In/Out switch ?

I would agree and I don’t know for sure, but the red area presumably is a “no take-off” zone.

NutLoose
7th Jan 2021, 16:52
If you look at this image the gauge is in the centre panel and it appears to have the word flaps printed between the red and green.


https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/230305

scroogee
7th Jan 2021, 17:14
Are the markers 1/3 and 2/3? Which may tie in with flap position.

Jhieminga
7th Jan 2021, 17:22
Flaps do appear plausible, but cowl flaps may also be an option if the gauge is near the engine management section.

NutLoose
7th Jan 2021, 17:31
Page 118 of the Solent manual describes it. Red range is fully in to 1/3rd out and is supplemented by a lamp.

https://www.seawings.co.uk/images/manuals/Short%20Solent%203%20Manual/Short%20Solent%203%20Maintenance%20Manual.pdf

NutLoose
7th Jan 2021, 17:32
Flaps do appear plausible, but cowl flaps may also be an option if the gauge is near the engine management section.

I thought that too, but you would have 4 then.

culzean12
7th Jan 2021, 17:33
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Corsairoz
7th Jan 2021, 18:03
Excellent, that solves a mystery I think. Thanks all.

Come and see us at SolentSky once allowed and I'll show you around the flight deck of VP-LVE.

Corsairoz

meleagertoo
8th Jan 2021, 13:23
I'd like to know what is the instrument labelled "PILOT" just above the RDF(?) tuner.

Harry Lime
8th Jan 2021, 15:45
Thank you for showing us the Solent D&S Manual Nutloose. A fascinating read through of aero engineering history.

Fareastdriver
8th Jan 2021, 18:50
I'd like to know what is the instrument labelled "PILOT" just above the RDF(?) tuner.

That is an early alcohol meter.

0 (Zero) N (normal) ~ (warning) E (excessive) 6 (six sheets to the wind).

DaveReidUK
8th Jan 2021, 19:32
That is an early alcohol meter.

0 (Zero) N (normal) ~ (warning) E (excessive) 6 (six sheets to the wind).

The scale on the left has N and T at the extremes of the range.

At a guess, that's (N)ewt (as in "p*ss*d as a ...) and (T)eetotal.

A more boring explanation would be (N)ose and (T)ail.

eckhard
8th Jan 2021, 20:23
Some sort of trim or elevator indication? I think I can see the word “HEAVY” between T and N. Also there is the “LB” marking below “PILOT”, so maybe a measurement of stick force?